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RDA AdminAdministratorHello Everyone,
Just following up on this email. We still have slots available if anyone
would like to present during our plenary session,
https://www.rd-alliance.org/plenaries/rda-18th-plenary-meeting-virtual/i….
The session will take place on November 10th at 16:00 UTC (you can see the
full program here,
https://www.rd-alliance.org/rdas-18th-plenary-draft-programme.
If you have any ideas of future topics for the group, please add them to
our wiki
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/archives-and-records-professionals-res…
(you
will need to log in to be able to edit).
Thanks!
Sarah
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 9:37 AM Rebecca_Grant via Archives and Records
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RDA AdminAdministratorIt is scheduled for 01:00 (AM) GMT/UTC to allow attendance from other time zones that the Feb meeting is not ideal for.
Mark Leggott
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RDA AdminAdministratorSomeone else said this during the meeting — ‘minimal metadata to support
sustainability’ which has a nice ring to it (though not sure
sustainability captures all the FAIR concepts).
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 1:54 PM Kerstin Lehnert via Physical Samples and
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RDA AdminAdministratorThanks all!
The session has been submitted:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/plenaries/rda-16th-plenary-meeting-costa-ric…
You have to login to see it, and I’m not sure who actually has permission to view it. Also, the print/PDF from the site is unreadable, so I will let everyone know when I hear back. Thanks for the quick turnaround on the Google draft!
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Mark
From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: Natalie Harrower
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 08:36
To: Mark Leggott , RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Cc: Timea Biro , Kheeran Dharmawardena , Claire Austin , Rajni Nagrani , Mary De Silva , Bridget Walker , Priyanka PillaiSubject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Session proposal for November…
Hi thanks Mark and Timea. I’ve added a fair bit of text and it’s nearly there – needs some input from others and a bit of tidying.
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Director, Digital Repository of Ireland
Royal Irish Academy
***@***.*** | @natalieharrower
http://www.dri.ie | @dri_ireland
RDA COVID-19 Working Group
European Commission FAIR data expert group
European Open Science Cloud (EOSC) FAIR working group
On 4 Aug 2020, at 09:58, Mark Leggott wrote:
Thanks Timea,
Natalie reminded me that Chairs need to submit session proposals, so I will send this in today if people want to add their thoughts to the draft that Timea has started.
I will submit it by 14:00 my time today, 17:00 UTC.
Mark
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On Aug 4, 2020, at 05:17, Timea Biro wrote:
I set up the Google doc here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XkYYiyrnGu_dh2JK8OqkTM1jqPB2ZLtK2u1m…
There is also a citizens science & community participation session application that went in.
Please feel free to edit.
Happy to follow up for the submission.
Cheers,
Timea
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From: on behalf of natalieharrower via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Reply to: Natalie Harrower
Date: Tuesday 4 August 2020 at 09:08
To: Kheeran Dharmawardena , RDA COVID19 Coordination
Cc: Mark Leggott , Claire Austin , Rajni Nagrani , Mary De Silva , Bridget Walker , Priyanka PillaiSubject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Session proposal for November…
Hi all,
Agreed, unless the Infectious Diseases BOF was meant to cover all of this? Here’s a few things we can discuss on email, and maybe someone can start a Google doc? I have another deadline today so I can circle back later.
I note this:
Note, submissions for Working/Interest Group sessions and Joint Meetings are accepted from group chairs only. For joint meetings, all group chairs need to be notified prior to submission.
For submission we need to determine the following:
Session Title
Session Abstract (meeting objectives)
Meeting Presenters
Meeting Agenda
Target Audience
About the Group: Group chair serving as contact person; brief intro describing the scope and activities of the group; short group status
Type of meeting (Informative vs Working)
And groups to avoid scheduling conflicts with (eg the new Infectious diseases one)
Information on how to hold the session – prerecorded, live, multiple times to accommodate different time zones
Which preferred plenary slot (Sessions 1 through 8)
To get the conversation going:
First question is what would we want to accomplish? We could make it an informative meeting, but I think there are things we could work on, such as how we might maintain these recs and guidelines going forward, what other outputs could emerge from them (in addition to the papers, tools already being worked on), creation of case studies of their implementation, etc. If we went in this direction, the ‘Type of meeting’ could be ‘Working’ and the objectives could include presenting the work, presenting additional outputs, framework for adoptions, plan for maintenance, etc.
Natalie
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Dr. Natalie Harrower
Director, Digital Repository of Ireland
Royal Irish Academy
***@***.*** | @natalieharrower
http://www.dri.ie | @dri_ireland
RDA COVID-19 Working Group
European Commission FAIR data expert group
European Open Science Cloud (EOSC) FAIR working group
On 4 Aug 2020, at 03:01, kheerand via RDA COVID19 Coordination wrote:
Hi Mark,
Agree, we should schedule one for the Plenary.
Regards
Kheeran
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:10 AM mleggott via RDA COVID19 Coordination wrote:
I believe this one slipped through the cracks, as there is no coordination that I am aware of.
I know Priyanka is submitting a proposal for an “Infectious Disease Community of Practice”, which is a new designation that RDA is just in the early stages of defining. I have CC’d Priyanka, as I can’t remember if we had discussed a COVID-19 WG submission along with this.
We should make sure that we do submit a WG session for P16, and I am happy to help facilitate if one has not yet been drafted.
Claire – let me know where you are on this and what I can do to help.
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Mark
From: Claire Austin
Date: Monday, August 3, 2020 at 11:03
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Cc: Rajni Nagrani , Mary De Silva , Bridget Walker , Mar k Leggott
Subject: Session proposal for November Plenary – Deadline tomorrow (Tuesday)
Hello everyone,
Is there an RDA-COVID19-WG submission for the November (virtual) Plenary – deadline for submission tomorrow?
Is each sub-WG submitting separate session proposals, or is there some kind of coordination?
Please accept my apologies if I’ve missed relevant emails about this.
Cheers,
Claire
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RDA AdminAdministratorI believe this one slipped through the cracks, as there is no coordination that I am aware of.
I know Priyanka is submitting a proposal for an “Infectious Disease Community of Practice”, which is a new designation that RDA is just in the early stages of defining. I have CC’d Priyanka, as I can’t remember if we had discussed a COVID-19 WG submission along with this.
We should make sure that we do submit a WG session for P16, and I am happy to help facilitate if one has not yet been drafted.
Claire – let me know where you are on this and what I can do to help.
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Mark
From: Claire Austin
Date: Monday, August 3, 2020 at 11:03
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Cc: Rajni Nagrani , Mary De Silva , Bridget Walker , Mark Leggott
Subject: Session proposal for November Plenary – Deadline tomorrow (Tuesday)
Hello everyone,
Is there an RDA-COVID19-WG submission for the November (virtual) Plenary – deadline for submission tomorrow?
Is each sub-WG submitting separate session proposals, or is there some kind of coordination?
Please accept my apologies if I’ve missed relevant emails about this.
Cheers,
Claire -
RDA AdminAdministratorHi Susanna,
I am responding as I know the Editorial Team is heads-down into the 5th release. The sub-groups were asked to do a final “sanity check” of references for release 5, so if they are corrections, I suggest you add them as Comments to the Release 5 document. If they are new additions, we may need to look at them for the final release, as that also has implications for the References section, which I believe has already been vetted. The window for suggestions to Release 5 is 26 May 16:00 UTC-27 May 10:00 UTC. Thanks Susanna,
Mark
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Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: Susanna-Assunta Sansone
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 13:11
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Question, please: adding few final links to the release – process and timelines
Dear Natalie, All,
you may have mentioned this on our call earlier, and I have probably missed, so apologies in advance.
I now have few final links (to standards and repositories in fairsharing) for the final release: which doc should I add them to (release 5?) and when can do this?
Kind regards,
Susanna
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For personal reasons I work on reduced hours until the end of August.
Therefore I will respond more slowly than usual.
Point of contact:
for the group, ISA, STATO, FAIRplus and NIH CDFE -> ***@***.***
for EOSC-Life and FAIRsharing -> ***@***.***
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Associate Professor, Dep of Engineering Science
University of Oxford, UK
Data Readiness Group:
https://datareadiness.eng.ox.ac.uk
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RDA AdminAdministratorHello Everyone,
Thank you to those of you who were able to attend our virtual session last
month. A recording of the session is now available. Please see the link
below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUSdIGUEX1Q&feature=youtu.be
Thank you!
Sarah
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 11:16 AM Sarah Ramdeen
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RDA AdminAdministratorLet’s add this to the Co-Chairs+Moderators call for Tuesday.
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Mark
From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 18:07
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Promoting commercial apps or companies
Hello colleagues,
I have a request from a WG member to add a recommendation concerning tracking apps, and to give as an example covid19.track.health.
My response was, “We cannot, should not recommend commercial products or companies. From the website of covid19.track.health: Covidaware.me was by a team of scientists and software engineers from the Monarch Initiative and Pryzm Health Pty Ltd, with over 10 years experience in the epidemiology, clinical data standardization and knowledge curation.”
Moderators may want to be vigilant about the appearance of promoting, even indirectly, commercial interests.
Cheers,
Claire -
RDA AdminAdministratorThanks for the update Amy.
Mark
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Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: Amy Pienta
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 16:40
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Social science V2
Mark,
The social science sub-group met today and we decided to make minor edits to our longer version of our guidelines. The short version that appears in the combined document for public comment, we will leave as it is – for this week.
Thank you,
Amy and Iryna
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Amy Pienta, PhD
Research Scientist and Director, Business and Collection Development
ICPSR, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
ICPSR holds a 2019 National Medal for Museum and Library Science
Ready to Deposit Data at ICPSR?
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RDA AdminAdministratorHi Claire,
I would suggest at this early stage we are happy to accept feedback in whatever form people feel comfortable providing it, and the RDA Secretariat and Editorial team have committed to streaming the various feedback loops in the crafting of the final document. If the sub-groups also want help extracting the feedback from something like this just let us know, and we will facilitate.
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:43
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Updates and Requests
Thank you.
Could we possibly ask that people not embed comments in a PDF?
Cheers, Claire
– Show quoted text -From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Hilary Hanahoe via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: April 29, 2020 11:37 AM
To: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Updates and Requests
Dear COVID-19 Co-chairs and Moderators,
First of all, I would like to welcome Natalie Harrower to this group. Natalie has been added as a COVID-19 co-chair and is supporting the editorial team.
A few highlights/requests for you:
1. A reminder to the moderators to send me an email with the specific expertise that you are seeking in your group so I can send a call to the community and beyond.
2. Please send any highlights of the content you would like to focus on during next week’s webinar as soon as possible so that we can raise awareness and promote to the members and community
3. Request for Comments: with the Secretariat and web development team we are discussing eventual plausible solutions to enhance the RfC features and functionalities on the RDA web platform. We are looking to identify a solution that would be implemented in time for the Pre Final Release on 22 May. In the meantime, we have activated the attachment facility so that people (like Alan Paic) can upload commented versions of the pdf if they so wish.
Do let me know if anything is unclear and thank you all so much for your work and support
Hilary
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RDA 16th Plenary Meeting, 10 – 12 November 2020, San Jose, Costa Rica – see updates
RDA 17th Plenary Meeting, 20 -22 April 2021, Edinburgh, Scotland – see updates
IDW2021 (co-organised by RDA, CODATA and WDS and incorporates 18th RDA Plenary Meeting), 8-11 November 2021, Seoul, Republic of Korea – see updates
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RDA AdminAdministratorThanks Claire, it was an amazing effort, and an honour to watch unfold.
On the Editorial Team call earlier today (which met to format the first release), I compared the experience of watching the separate writing sprints (and yes, I do get all the sub-groups messages) as watching one of those time-lapse videos of a flower blooming. So, kudos to the Epi team, and may a thousand more data flowers bloom! I hope you all enjoy a well-deserved weekend. Cheers,
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: on behalf of caustin via RDA-COVID19-Epidemiology
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Friday, April 24, 2020 at 13:55
To: Mark Leggott , RDA-COVID19-Epidemiology
Cc: Priyanka PillaiSubject: [rda-covid19-epidemiology] RDA-COVID19-EPI. Attribution and acknowledgments
Hi Mark,
There are 18 people (names listed, below) who have contributed in one way or another to the work of the RDA-COVID19-EPIDEMIOLOGY sub-WORK GROUP leading to the development of the ‘Epidemiology data recommendations’:
78 people joined the subWG via the RDA website.
Of these, 28 people indicated there interest by completing the Membership Survey.
Of these, 18 people have contributed to the work of the Epidemiology subWG:
Claire Austin
Anna Widyastuti
Birte Lindstaedt
Carlos Luis Parra-Calderon
Carsten Oliver Schmidt
Chifundo Kanjala
Cyrille Delpierre
David Delmail
Gayo Diallo
Henri Tonnang
Jay Greenfield
Marlon Bayot
Meg Sears
Natalie Harrower
Natalie Meyers
Rajini Nagrani
Robin Michelet
Stefan Sauermann
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for your interest and participation. It is a privilege to be working together with you. If I have inadvertently omitted your name from the list above, please accept my sincerest apologies and send me an email requesting that I add your name to the list.
Cheers,
Claire -
RDA AdminAdministratorHi Claire,
RDA has a well-defined process for becoming a member, so I would ask that we not confuse that with another pipeline.
When people register to become an RDA member, those submissions are reviewed 2-3 times each, so any potential delay would be minimal. The landing page for Registration states that it can take up to 1 business day to process.
Once people become a member, they are free to login to the RDA site, navigate to the COVID-19 list of groups and sub-groups, and join any combination of groups. Since messages like main group webinar notices go to the COVID-19 WG mailing list, they should join that one, as well as at least one of the sub-groups. Moderators can of course also circulate notices like that to their sub-group mailing lists.
Since the main COVID-19 WG existed on its own for the first while, people could only join that Group, and it was only after sub-groups were created, that people were added to their identified groups. If someone joins now, they can join a sub-group without joining the main WG, which I suspect is leading to some of the missed communications.
This list of steps can be sent to people who don’t seem to have the right access. If Moderators want to learn more about their members, then using a Survey like the one you have may be of use to them, but it should not be another member registration/participation pipeline.
Let me know if there are additional questions, thanks.
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:39
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround – Membership survey
To clarify, I am not asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the SurveyMonkey membership survey to their respective groups. I am asking if there is an interest in doing so. If there is an interest, I am offering to:
Change the name from RDA-COVID19-EPIDEMIOLOGY WG Membership survey (password: washyourhands) to “RDA-COVID19 WG Membership survey,” and,
Edit the introduction at the top of the survey from the current:
“Welcome to the RDA-COVID19 Epidemiology sub-WG!
Before completing this survey, please review the following:
Readme first
Epidemiology meeting Minutes for April 13, 15, and 17,”
to something that would work across all sub-WG’s based on the suggestions of the co-Chairs and co-Moderators.
I have had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA membership applications. At least one of the co-Moderators has been hearing similar reports. This means that people are unable to join the COVID19 WG and sub-WG’s, are not receiving messages from the mailing list, and are therefore unable to participate in the work.
As a work-around, I am suggesting that the co-Moderators may wish to use the Membership survey, above, which requests people’s email addresses (optional field). With this, they would be able to forward the mailing list messages to interested non-Members who would then be able to participate via hyperlinks to the Google Docs.
You can all access the Membership survey by clicking its hyperlink above to see its content, and you are welcome to respond to it, also (5 minutes to complete). You may find it useful for other purposes, such as getting a better understanding of the profile or your subWB.
Cheers,
Claire
– Show quoted text -From: Bridget Walker
Sent: April 17, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Claire Austin
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
Dear Claire
Just to clarify – are you asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the membership survey to their respective groups? If so, perhaps you could specify that.
Re the people you invited to join the WG. Could you please clarify whether these people are RDA members? If not, they need to first register. Then, when their application has been accepted, they can join the main WG and one of the 5 sub groups. They can do all this themselves.
People were not asked to leave their email addresses when they identified themselves in the spreadsheet. We cannot, for privacy reasons, compile lists of emails in this way.
I can only contact people from the spreadsheet if they are RDA members (this is the only way I have access to their email contact).
Thank you
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
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From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 12:40
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; Bridget Walker
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
As a workaround, would you like to send out the Membership Survey (password: washyourhands) that I had developed for the EPI subWG? The content is generic, I think, across all subWG except for the introductory text which I can edit later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting. Happy to receive your suggestions as to what you would like to see in the introductory text at the top of the survey.
A week ago, I had sent out a very large number of invitations to the epidemiology and public health communities to join the WG. This would explain why, surprisingly, no one has joined. I will send you the list of emails later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting.
Has anyone compiled a list of email addresses from the sign-up spreadsheet?
Cheers,
Claire
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Bridget Walker via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: April 17, 2020 4:44 AM
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; ***@***.***-tlse3.fr
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Dear Anne, all
Instructions were sent out at the beginning inviting people to sign up to the main WG – but to register to RDA first if they were not already an RDA member.
When people identified themselves in the spreadsheet I added them to the specific sub group according to which of the 5 topics they had indicated. Many have added themselves.
I have continued to monitor the spreadsheet and have contacted people who have not joined the WG or who have not indicated one of the 5 topics.
In the case of Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag, I can see that she registered with the RDA on 14th April but she did not join the main WG. I have now added her to the WG. She does not appear to be listed in the spreadsheet so I suggest you ask her to join the sub group she is particularly interested in.
I have asked Secretariat to look into the issue of people’s RDA membership not yet being approved.
I hope this clarifies things.
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of cambonthomsen via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 07:31
To: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Hi dear colleagues,
I had some people with the same issues as Claire mentioned;
We had a rapid way of approving RDA membership at the start of the WG, but may be it is not anymore the case? Or could be checked?
Another issue is that some people registered on the Excel file at the start but did not register as RDA members. A colleague told me that she thought when people were filling the excel file on expertise, RDA had away to make them automatically registered to the indicated sub-group. I do not remember how this had been managed, for example if all those people did receive a mail asking them to adhere to RDA.
I can give the name of this person as a test person Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag to look at? She had indicated “omics” in the excel ; she mentioned to me that other colleagues did receive e-mails for webinars or other, but not her. That’s what brought my attention back to that. I told her to adhere to RDA but do not know if she did or not yet.
Anne
Le 17/04/2020 à 02:51, caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination a écrit :
I’ve had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA account registration, and that they are unable to join the RDA-COVID19 WG or sub-WG’s.
Is this a known issue? Can it be resolved?
Cheers,
Claire
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Directrice de recherche émérite au CNRS
UMR 1027, Inserm, Univ Toulouse III – Paul Sabatier http://www.u1027.inserm.fr
Plateforme sociétale genotoul http://societal.genotoul.fr/
Ambassador of the Research Data Alliance (RDA) for health sciences and research ethics http://www.rd-alliance.org
37 allées Jules Guesde F-31000 Toulouse
Tel : +33 (0)5 61 14 59 59 Mobile: +33 (0)6 79 41 13 48 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 14 56 23 Skype: act_pro
E-mail :
Hi Claire,
RDA has a well-defined process for becoming a member, so I would ask that we not confuse that with another pipeline.
When people register to become an RDA member, those submissions are reviewed 2-3 times each, so any potential delay would be minimal. The landing page for Registration states that it can take up to 1 business day to process.
Once people become a member, they are free to login to the RDA site, navigate to the COVID-19 list of groups and sub-groups, and join any combination of groups. Since messages like main group webinar notices go to the COVID-19 WG mailing list, they should join that one, as well as at least one of the sub-groups. Moderators can of course also circulate notices like that to their sub-group mailing lists.
Since the main COVID-19 WG existed on its own for the first while, people could only join that Group, and it was only after sub-groups were created, that people were added to their identified groups. If someone joins now, they can join a sub-group without joining the main WG, which I suspect is leading to some of the missed communications.
This list of steps can be sent to people who don’t seem to have the right access. If Moderators want to learn more about their members, then using a Survey like the one you have may be of use to them, but it should not be another member registration/participation pipeline.
Let me know if there are additional questions, thanks.
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
Twitter – @mleggott/#rdcdrc LinkedIn – ca.linkedin.com/in/markleggott
Book a Meeting with Me – https://doodle.com/mm/markleggott/book-a-time
From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:39
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround – Membership survey
To clarify, I am not asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the SurveyMonkey membership survey to their respective groups. I am asking if there is an interest in doing so. If there is an interest, I am offering to:
Change the name from RDA-COVID19-EPIDEMIOLOGY WG Membership survey (password: washyourhands) to “RDA-COVID19 WG Membership survey,” and,
Edit the introduction at the top of the survey from the current:
“Welcome to the RDA-COVID19 Epidemiology sub-WG!
Before completing this survey, please review the following:
Readme first
Epidemiology meeting Minutes for April 13, 15, and 17,”
to something that would work across all sub-WG’s based on the suggestions of the co-Chairs and co-Moderators.
I have had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA membership applications. At least one of the co-Moderators has been hearing similar reports. This means that people are unable to join the COVID19 WG and sub-WG’s, are not receiving messages from the mailing list, and are therefore unable to participate in the work.
As a work-around, I am suggesting that the co-Moderators may wish to use the Membership survey, above, which requests people’s email addresses (optional field). With this, they would be able to forward the mailing list messages to interested non-Members who would then be able to participate via hyperlinks to the Google Docs.
You can all access the Membership survey by clicking its hyperlink above to see its content, and you are welcome to respond to it, also (5 minutes to complete). You may find it useful for other purposes, such as getting a better understanding of the profile or your subWB.
Cheers,
Claire
From: Bridget Walker
Sent: April 17, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Claire Austin
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
Dear Claire
Just to clarify – are you asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the membership survey to their respective groups? If so, perhaps you could specify that.
Re the people you invited to join the WG. Could you please clarify whether these people are RDA members? If not, they need to first register. Then, when their application has been accepted, they can join the main WG and one of the 5 sub groups. They can do all this themselves.
People were not asked to leave their email addresses when they identified themselves in the spreadsheet. We cannot, for privacy reasons, compile lists of emails in this way.
I can only contact people from the spreadsheet if they are RDA members (this is the only way I have access to their email contact).
Thank you
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
– Show quoted text -From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 12:40
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; Bridget Walker
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
As a workaround, would you like to send out the Membership Survey (password: washyourhands) that I had developed for the EPI subWG? The content is generic, I think, across all subWG except for the introductory text which I can edit later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting. Happy to receive your suggestions as to what you would like to see in the introductory text at the top of the survey.
A week ago, I had sent out a very large number of invitations to the epidemiology and public health communities to join the WG. This would explain why, surprisingly, no one has joined. I will send you the list of emails later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting.
Has anyone compiled a list of email addresses from the sign-up spreadsheet?
Cheers,
Claire
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Bridget Walker via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: April 17, 2020 4:44 AM
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; ***@***.***-tlse3.fr
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Dear Anne, all
Instructions were sent out at the beginning inviting people to sign up to the main WG – but to register to RDA first if they were not already an RDA member.
When people identified themselves in the spreadsheet I added them to the specific sub group according to which of the 5 topics they had indicated. Many have added themselves.
I have continued to monitor the spreadsheet and have contacted people who have not joined the WG or who have not indicated one of the 5 topics.
In the case of Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag, I can see that she registered with the RDA on 14th April but she did not join the main WG. I have now added her to the WG. She does not appear to be listed in the spreadsheet so I suggest you ask her to join the sub group she is particularly interested in.
I have asked Secretariat to look into the issue of people’s RDA membership not yet being approved.
I hope this clarifies things.
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of cambonthomsen via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 07:31
To: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Hi dear colleagues,
I had some people with the same issues as Claire mentioned;
We had a rapid way of approving RDA membership at the start of the WG, but may be it is not anymore the case? Or could be checked?
Another issue is that some people registered on the Excel file at the start but did not register as RDA members. A colleague told me that she thought when people were filling the excel file on expertise, RDA had away to make them automatically registered to the indicated sub-group. I do not remember how this had been managed, for example if all those people did receive a mail asking them to adhere to RDA.
I can give the name of this person as a test person Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag to look at? She had indicated “omics” in the excel ; she mentioned to me that other colleagues did receive e-mails for webinars or other, but not her. That’s what brought my attention back to that. I told her to adhere to RDA but do not know if she did or not yet.
Anne
Le 17/04/2020 à 02:51, caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination a écrit :
I’ve had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA account registration, and that they are unable to join the RDA-COVID19 WG or sub-WG’s.
Is this a known issue? Can it be resolved?
Cheers,
Claire
—
Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/rda-covid19-coordination/post/problem-…
Manage my subscriptions: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist
Stop emails for this post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist/unsubscribe/69162
—
Dr Anne Cambon-Thomsen
Directrice de recherche émérite au CNRS
UMR 1027, Inserm, Univ Toulouse III – Paul Sabatier http://www.u1027.inserm.fr
Plateforme sociétale genotoul http://societal.genotoul.fr/
Ambassador of the Research Data Alliance (RDA) for health sciences and research ethics http://www.rd-alliance.org
37 allées Jules Guesde F-31000 Toulouse
Tel : +33 (0)5 61 14 59 59 Mobile: +33 (0)6 79 41 13 48 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 14 56 23 Skype: act_pro
E-mail :
Hi Claire,
RDA has a well-defined process for becoming a member, so I would ask that we not confuse that with another pipeline.
When people register to become an RDA member, those submissions are reviewed 2-3 times each, so any potential delay would be minimal. The landing page for Registration states that it can take up to 1 business day to process.
Once people become a member, they are free to login to the RDA site, navigate to the COVID-19 list of groups and sub-groups, and join any combination of groups. Since messages like main group webinar notices go to the COVID-19 WG mailing list, they should join that one, as well as at least one of the sub-groups. Moderators can of course also circulate notices like that to their sub-group mailing lists.
Since the main COVID-19 WG existed on its own for the first while, people could only join that Group, and it was only after sub-groups were created, that people were added to their identified groups. If someone joins now, they can join a sub-group without joining the main WG, which I suspect is leading to some of the missed communications.
This list of steps can be sent to people who don’t seem to have the right access. If Moderators want to learn more about their members, then using a Survey like the one you have may be of use to them, but it should not be another member registration/participation pipeline.
Let me know if there are additional questions, thanks.
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
Twitter – @mleggott/#rdcdrc LinkedIn – ca.linkedin.com/in/markleggott
Book a Meeting with Me – https://doodle.com/mm/markleggott/book-a-time
From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:39
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround – Membership survey
To clarify, I am not asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the SurveyMonkey membership survey to their respective groups. I am asking if there is an interest in doing so. If there is an interest, I am offering to:
Change the name from RDA-COVID19-EPIDEMIOLOGY WG Membership survey (password: washyourhands) to “RDA-COVID19 WG Membership survey,” and,
Edit the introduction at the top of the survey from the current:
“Welcome to the RDA-COVID19 Epidemiology sub-WG!
Before completing this survey, please review the following:
Readme first
Epidemiology meeting Minutes for April 13, 15, and 17,”
to something that would work across all sub-WG’s based on the suggestions of the co-Chairs and co-Moderators.
I have had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA membership applications. At least one of the co-Moderators has been hearing similar reports. This means that people are unable to join the COVID19 WG and sub-WG’s, are not receiving messages from the mailing list, and are therefore unable to participate in the work.
As a work-around, I am suggesting that the co-Moderators may wish to use the Membership survey, above, which requests people’s email addresses (optional field). With this, they would be able to forward the mailing list messages to interested non-Members who would then be able to participate via hyperlinks to the Google Docs.
You can all access the Membership survey by clicking its hyperlink above to see its content, and you are welcome to respond to it, also (5 minutes to complete). You may find it useful for other purposes, such as getting a better understanding of the profile or your subWB.
Cheers,
Claire
From: Bridget Walker
Sent: April 17, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Claire Austin
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
Dear Claire
Just to clarify – are you asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the membership survey to their respective groups? If so, perhaps you could specify that.
Re the people you invited to join the WG. Could you please clarify whether these people are RDA members? If not, they need to first register. Then, when their application has been accepted, they can join the main WG and one of the 5 sub groups. They can do all this themselves.
People were not asked to leave their email addresses when they identified themselves in the spreadsheet. We cannot, for privacy reasons, compile lists of emails in this way.
I can only contact people from the spreadsheet if they are RDA members (this is the only way I have access to their email contact).
Thank you
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 12:40
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; Bridget Walker
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
As a workaround, would you like to send out the Membership Survey (password: washyourhands) that I had developed for the EPI subWG? The content is generic, I think, across all subWG except for the introductory text which I can edit later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting. Happy to receive your suggestions as to what you would like to see in the introductory text at the top of the survey.
A week ago, I had sent out a very large number of invitations to the epidemiology and public health communities to join the WG. This would explain why, surprisingly, no one has joined. I will send you the list of emails later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting.
Has anyone compiled a list of email addresses from the sign-up spreadsheet?
Cheers,
Claire
– Show quoted text -From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Bridget Walker via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: April 17, 2020 4:44 AM
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; ***@***.***-tlse3.fr
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Dear Anne, all
Instructions were sent out at the beginning inviting people to sign up to the main WG – but to register to RDA first if they were not already an RDA member.
When people identified themselves in the spreadsheet I added them to the specific sub group according to which of the 5 topics they had indicated. Many have added themselves.
I have continued to monitor the spreadsheet and have contacted people who have not joined the WG or who have not indicated one of the 5 topics.
In the case of Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag, I can see that she registered with the RDA on 14th April but she did not join the main WG. I have now added her to the WG. She does not appear to be listed in the spreadsheet so I suggest you ask her to join the sub group she is particularly interested in.
I have asked Secretariat to look into the issue of people’s RDA membership not yet being approved.
I hope this clarifies things.
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of cambonthomsen via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 07:31
To: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Hi dear colleagues,
I had some people with the same issues as Claire mentioned;
We had a rapid way of approving RDA membership at the start of the WG, but may be it is not anymore the case? Or could be checked?
Another issue is that some people registered on the Excel file at the start but did not register as RDA members. A colleague told me that she thought when people were filling the excel file on expertise, RDA had away to make them automatically registered to the indicated sub-group. I do not remember how this had been managed, for example if all those people did receive a mail asking them to adhere to RDA.
I can give the name of this person as a test person Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag to look at? She had indicated “omics” in the excel ; she mentioned to me that other colleagues did receive e-mails for webinars or other, but not her. That’s what brought my attention back to that. I told her to adhere to RDA but do not know if she did or not yet.
Anne
Le 17/04/2020 à 02:51, caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination a écrit :
I’ve had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA account registration, and that they are unable to join the RDA-COVID19 WG or sub-WG’s.
Is this a known issue? Can it be resolved?
Cheers,
Claire
—
Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/rda-covid19-coordination/post/problem-…
Manage my subscriptions: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist
Stop emails for this post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist/unsubscribe/69162
—
Dr Anne Cambon-Thomsen
Directrice de recherche émérite au CNRS
UMR 1027, Inserm, Univ Toulouse III – Paul Sabatier http://www.u1027.inserm.fr
Plateforme sociétale genotoul http://societal.genotoul.fr/
Ambassador of the Research Data Alliance (RDA) for health sciences and research ethics http://www.rd-alliance.org
37 allées Jules Guesde F-31000 Toulouse
Tel : +33 (0)5 61 14 59 59 Mobile: +33 (0)6 79 41 13 48 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 14 56 23 Skype: act_pro
E-mail :
Hi Claire,
RDA has a well-defined process for becoming a member, so I would ask that we not confuse that with another pipeline.
When people register to become an RDA member, those submissions are reviewed 2-3 times each, so any potential delay would be minimal. The landing page for Registration states that it can take up to 1 business day to process.
Once people become a member, they are free to login to the RDA site, navigate to the COVID-19 list of groups and sub-groups, and join any combination of groups. Since messages like main group webinar notices go to the COVID-19 WG mailing list, they should join that one, as well as at least one of the sub-groups. Moderators can of course also circulate notices like that to their sub-group mailing lists.
Since the main COVID-19 WG existed on its own for the first while, people could only join that Group, and it was only after sub-groups were created, that people were added to their identified groups. If someone joins now, they can join a sub-group without joining the main WG, which I suspect is leading to some of the missed communications.
This list of steps can be sent to people who don’t seem to have the right access. If Moderators want to learn more about their members, then using a Survey like the one you have may be of use to them, but it should not be another member registration/participation pipeline.
Let me know if there are additional questions, thanks.
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
Twitter – @mleggott/#rdcdrc LinkedIn – ca.linkedin.com/in/markleggott
Book a Meeting with Me – https://doodle.com/mm/markleggott/book-a-time
From: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators on behalf of RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:39
To: RDA COVID-19 Co-Chairs and Moderators
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround – Membership survey
To clarify, I am not asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the SurveyMonkey membership survey to their respective groups. I am asking if there is an interest in doing so. If there is an interest, I am offering to:
Change the name from RDA-COVID19-EPIDEMIOLOGY WG Membership survey (password: washyourhands) to “RDA-COVID19 WG Membership survey,” and,
Edit the introduction at the top of the survey from the current:
“Welcome to the RDA-COVID19 Epidemiology sub-WG!
Before completing this survey, please review the following:
Readme first
Epidemiology meeting Minutes for April 13, 15, and 17,”
to something that would work across all sub-WG’s based on the suggestions of the co-Chairs and co-Moderators.
I have had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA membership applications. At least one of the co-Moderators has been hearing similar reports. This means that people are unable to join the COVID19 WG and sub-WG’s, are not receiving messages from the mailing list, and are therefore unable to participate in the work.
As a work-around, I am suggesting that the co-Moderators may wish to use the Membership survey, above, which requests people’s email addresses (optional field). With this, they would be able to forward the mailing list messages to interested non-Members who would then be able to participate via hyperlinks to the Google Docs.
You can all access the Membership survey by clicking its hyperlink above to see its content, and you are welcome to respond to it, also (5 minutes to complete). You may find it useful for other purposes, such as getting a better understanding of the profile or your subWB.
Cheers,
Claire
From: Bridget Walker
Sent: April 17, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Claire Austin
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
Dear Claire
Just to clarify – are you asking the moderators of the sub groups to send the membership survey to their respective groups? If so, perhaps you could specify that.
Re the people you invited to join the WG. Could you please clarify whether these people are RDA members? If not, they need to first register. Then, when their application has been accepted, they can join the main WG and one of the 5 sub groups. They can do all this themselves.
People were not asked to leave their email addresses when they identified themselves in the spreadsheet. We cannot, for privacy reasons, compile lists of emails in this way.
I can only contact people from the spreadsheet if they are RDA members (this is the only way I have access to their email contact).
Thank you
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 12:40
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; Bridget Walker
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: Problem with RDA account registration – Workaround
As a workaround, would you like to send out the Membership Survey (password: washyourhands) that I had developed for the EPI subWG? The content is generic, I think, across all subWG except for the introductory text which I can edit later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting. Happy to receive your suggestions as to what you would like to see in the introductory text at the top of the survey.
A week ago, I had sent out a very large number of invitations to the epidemiology and public health communities to join the WG. This would explain why, surprisingly, no one has joined. I will send you the list of emails later today after the 12:30pm UTC EPI meeting.
Has anyone compiled a list of email addresses from the sign-up spreadsheet?
Cheers,
Claire
From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Bridget Walker via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: April 17, 2020 4:44 AM
To: ***@***.***-groups.org ; ***@***.***-tlse3.fr
Subject: [rdacovid19-coordination] Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Dear Anne, all
Instructions were sent out at the beginning inviting people to sign up to the main WG – but to register to RDA first if they were not already an RDA member.
When people identified themselves in the spreadsheet I added them to the specific sub group according to which of the 5 topics they had indicated. Many have added themselves.
I have continued to monitor the spreadsheet and have contacted people who have not joined the WG or who have not indicated one of the 5 topics.
In the case of Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag, I can see that she registered with the RDA on 14th April but she did not join the main WG. I have now added her to the WG. She does not appear to be listed in the spreadsheet so I suggest you ask her to join the sub group she is particularly interested in.
I have asked Secretariat to look into the issue of people’s RDA membership not yet being approved.
I hope this clarifies things.
Bridget
Bridget Walker
Office Manager Research Data Alliance
Tel: +44-07307000352, +39-3405336956
email: ***@***.***-foundation.org
skype: bridgetwalker
web: http://www.rd-alliance.org
– Show quoted text -From: ***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of cambonthomsen via RDA COVID19 Coordination
Sent: 17 April 2020 07:31
To: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rdacovid19-coordination] Problem with RDA account registration and joining COVID19 WG?
Hi dear colleagues,
I had some people with the same issues as Claire mentioned;
We had a rapid way of approving RDA membership at the start of the WG, but may be it is not anymore the case? Or could be checked?
Another issue is that some people registered on the Excel file at the start but did not register as RDA members. A colleague told me that she thought when people were filling the excel file on expertise, RDA had away to make them automatically registered to the indicated sub-group. I do not remember how this had been managed, for example if all those people did receive a mail asking them to adhere to RDA.
I can give the name of this person as a test person Emmanuelle Rial-Sebbag to look at? She had indicated “omics” in the excel ; she mentioned to me that other colleagues did receive e-mails for webinars or other, but not her. That’s what brought my attention back to that. I told her to adhere to RDA but do not know if she did or not yet.
Anne
Le 17/04/2020 à 02:51, caustin via RDA COVID19 Coordination a écrit :
I’ve had at a few people tell me, since the beginning of this week, that the system is not processing their new RDA account registration, and that they are unable to join the RDA-COVID19 WG or sub-WG’s.
Is this a known issue? Can it be resolved?
Cheers,
Claire
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Date: Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 14:02
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Subject: Re: [rda-covid19] Re: [rda-covid19] RDA COVID Group – some things to note
Dear all,
Very happy to be involved.
On the policy side, the resources compiled by INGSA may be useful and could also be a good avenue for dissemination. INGSA is the International Network of Government Science Advisors (like CODATA is is part of the International Science Council).
INGSA COVID Science Advice Resources https://www.ingsa.org/covid/
Apologies if I’ve missed it – I haven’t seen a link to a document / table to log and categorise resources.
Best wishes,
Simon.
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On 26 Mar 2020, at 17:45, SimonParker via RDA-COVID19 wrote:
Hello all,
I’m Simon from Cancer Research UK; I oversee our Secure Data Environment and policies around how we handle patient data.
Through the SDAP group I was also involved in producing two items that may be of use:
Handbook on Statistical Disclosure Control for Outputs (https://securedatagroup.org/sdc-handbook/). This is designed to help researchers and RDCs make their outputs from sensitive data safe.
Data Aware Training (https://securedatagroup.org/training/). This is a training course for researchers who are working with sensitive data and includes assessments.
Both of these are free to use, and the training is designed to be customizable for organisations to pick which bits make sense for them. Please feel free to make use of them if they are helpful (both in this context or more generally).
Kind regards,
Simon
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RDA AdminAdministratorTo me the issue is not that there are two properties that are each other’s inverse, like schema:subjectOf and schema:about, but that there is one property schema:citation that is used in two different ways, not even with an inverse relationship. One meaning is to point from one thing to another (in line with the definition ), the other one, from the Dataset example, to say something like “use this in combination with that” which is completely different.
In my mind, if “A schema:citation B” means “A cites or references B”, then the statement “DatasetD schema:citation ArticleX” can only mean “DatasetD cites or references ArticleX” and nothing else. Otherwise, one would allow the meaning of the property to change based on the type of thing it is applied to.
By the way, I cannot find the property ‘references’ in schema.org. It is in Dublin Core, which also has its inverse ‘isReferencedBy’.
Makxz.
From: Robert Casey
Sent: 03 February 2020 19:11
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Cc: Makx Dekkers ; Research Metadata Schemas WG
Subject: Re: [rda-research-schemas-wg] citation property in Dataset
Interesting discussion. This sounds like the issue relating to Schema.org ‘s current recommendations for Metadata, where there are two different terms used depending on the direction of reference, but the reference is nonetheless bidirectional:
From: https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org/blob/master/decisions/4…
Linking Metadata docs to Datasets: Use schema:subjectOf or schema:about
schema:subjectOf
or inversely
schema:about
Could we consider using the terms ‘Citations’ and ‘References’ as directionally opposite in the same manner? Or perhaps there’s a better term.
-Rob
On Feb 3, 2020, at 6:40 AM, ljgarcia via Research Metadata Schemas WG wrote:
Hi all,
It is indeed confusing. I have added a comment to an open schemaorg issue in GitHub: https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1031
Please have a look to contribute to the discussion as you see it fits. Hopefully @danbri will reply to it.
Regards,
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:29 PM makxdekkers via Research Metadata Schemas WG wrote:
If I understand correctly, sdo:citation is being used here in the sense of “is supplementary material for”. If this is the semantic meaning of sdo:citation, it is a bit different from the usual meaning of citation.
Usually, I would expect citation to be one-way: ArticleA cites ArticleB.
But in the meaning implied by the Dataset guidelines, both the following statements would be valid:
ArticleA sdo:citation DatasetD (the usual meaning: the article cites the dataset)
DatasetD sdo:citation ArticleA (the additional meaning: the dataset requires the ar ticle to be cited alongside the dataset)
I find this confusing.
Makx.
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Sent: 03 February 2020 12:04
To: LJ.Garcia ; Research Metadata Schemas WG
Cc: Adam Shepherd
Subject: Re: [rda-research-schemas-wg] citation property in Dataset
Yes Leyla, this is what I understand as well. The google guidelines is consistent with the definition of citation from the schema.org : https://schema.org/citation
Thanks,
Ming
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:43 PM Adam Shepherd wrote:
I agree with you, Leyla
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On Jan 13, 2020, at 3:57 AM, ljgarcia via Research Metadata Schemas WG wrote:
Dear all,
During our last meeting we discussed what seems to be contradictory information on the Google guidelines regarding the Dataset schema.org type (https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/dataset).
After reading that doc ument again, I think there is no contradiction there. Let’s suppose we have a dataset named “OurDataset” where AA, BB, CC and DD have contributed and we have a paper about that dataset titled “OurDataset, integrating omics data” with only AA as author.
What Google recommends is something like:
“OurDataset” object -> citation -> “OurDataset, integrating omics data” object
{
“@type”: “Dataset”,
“name”: “OurDataset”,
“citation”: {
“@type”: “ScholarlyArticle”,
“name”: “OurDataset, integrating omics data”,
“author”: {
“@type”: “Person”,
“name”: “AA”
}
}
}
What Google asks us not to do is something like
“OurDataset” object -> citation -> “OurDataset” object
{
“@type”: “Dataset”,
“name”: “OurDataset”,
“citation”: {
“@type”: “Dataset”,
“name”: “OurDataset”
}
}
Do you agree this is what is written in that document? Should I still try to reach Dan Brickley from schema.org ?
Kind regards,
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