[Mark Parsons]

Regarding time slot. I note some groups are running two sessions to accommodate different hemispheres.
cheers,
-m.
On 20 Mar 2020, at 09:47, nsjuty via PID IG wrote:
Same here, I would attend, but really depends on finding a ‘convenient’ time slot.
cheers
Nick
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 1:44 PM leightonlc via PID IG wrote:
I would attend. Thanks!
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 09:36 Luc Boruta via PID IG wrote:
Hi Adrian, everyone,
Yes, I’d lov! e to join an online session.
Best,
Luc
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 7:17 AM aburton via PID IG wrote:
Hi PID-IG,
RDA is running some of the cancelled Melbourne sessions online over the next little while.
What would you think about running our PID-IG session? We don’t have timing etc yet, so this is just an ‘in principle’ question as to whether you would attend or be able to present a virtual plenary session.
The Melbourne program could be changed, but here is what we had planned:
1.
Intro and PID IG for newcomers (Adrian Burton)
2.
PID System Updates
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PIDs for Instruments: discussing the adoption of PIDINST WG output (Markus Stocker, Ted Habermann)
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ROR: Research Organisations Registry (Maria Gould)
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DataCite (John Chodacki)
3.
PID user snapshots
*
PID best practices: European Space Agency (Iolanda Maggio)
*
Enterprise PID initiatives: Commonwealth Scientific Industrial Research Organisation (Kathryn Unsworth)
*
PID policies: European Open Science Cloud (Sarah Jones)
*
PID decision support framework: (Natasha Simons, ARDC)
4.
Discussion: What is working? How do we know? Where there are still gaps or uncertainties?
Your thoughts?
Would you attend?
Could you present?
cheers,
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[Mark Parsons]

Cool. Some folks have contacted me personally, and there is some interest. Our dude, Linus, has six slots (his maximum group size) available on Saturday 13:30-16:30.
If interested, please confirm by Monday 13:00 UTC. If I get at least two or three people, I’ll book it.
I look forward to seeing y’all soon.
cheers,
-m.
On 21 Jun 2019, at 14:45, Mark Parsons
wrote:
p.s the cost is 18 dollars not Euros. And I found a couple other similar craft beer tours that may be of interest.
-m.
On 21 Jun 2019, at 14:38, Mark Parsons
wrote:
Hi all,
My wfe is away this summer teaching in China, so I’m in no rush to get home. I’m staying the weekend in Köln to play. Is anyone else sticking around?
One activity I was considering is a Kölsch tasting on Saturday or Sunday. Anyone interested?
Here’s the description:
About your host
I’m a Certified Cicerone ® (one of only 7 in Germany), beer geek and home brewer since 2011. I’ve been studying (and drinking) different beer styles and visiting breweries from Germany, Belgium, England and the USA for years. I live in Cologne since 2015 and deep into the city’s craft beer scene and local Kölsch beer culture.
[Linus]
Linus
What we’ll do
I’ll take you to a personalized beer tour to visit and learn about Cologne’s rich and unique beer history, visiting some traditional BrauHäuser (like Brauerei zum Malzmuhle, Sion, Früh, Päfgen, etc.) and trying the different Kölsch beers in the city. I’ll tell you about the history of Cologne and how it affected the evolution of the city’s unique beer style. I’ll give you tips on tasting and comparing each one of the local Kölsch beers and comparing with other traditional and more well known beer styles like German Pils, Export, American Standard Lager, etc.. And in case you are hungry we can finalize with a traditional meal in the last stop of the tour.
It costs €18 plus the cost of beer and food.
cheers,
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p.s the cost is 18 dollars not Euros. And I found a couple other similar craft beer tours that may be of interest.
-m.
On 21 Jun 2019, at 14:38, Mark Parsons
wrote:
Hi all,
My wfe is away this summer teaching in China, so I’m in no rush to get home. I’m staying the weekend in Köln to play. Is anyone else sticking around?
One activity I was considering is a Kölsch tasting on Saturday or Sunday. Anyone interested?
Here’s the description:
About your host
I’m a Certified Cicerone ® (one of only 7 in Germany), beer geek and home brewer since 2011. I’ve been studying (and drinking) different beer styles and visiting breweries from Germany, Belgium, England and the USA for years. I live in Cologne since 2015 and deep into the city’s craft beer scene and local Kölsch beer culture.
[Linus]
Linus
What we’ll do
I’ll take you to a personalized beer tour to visit and learn about Cologne’s rich and unique beer history, visiting some traditional BrauHäuser (like Brauerei zum Malzmuhle, Sion, Früh, Päfgen, etc.) and trying the different Kölsch beers in the city. I’ll tell you about the history of Cologne and how it affected the evolution of the city’s unique beer style. I’ll give you tips on tasting and comparing each one of the local Kölsch beers and comparing with other traditional and more well known beer styles like German Pils, Export, American Standard Lager, etc.. And in case you are hungry we can finalize with a traditional meal in the last stop of the tour.
It costs €18 plus the cost of beer and food.
cheers,
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[Mark Parsons]

Thanks Andi. I’m pleased to help out, but you have this WG functioning like a well-oiled machine these days.
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

Is there an AMA call today? Now?
cheers,
-m.
On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:51, ellipapa wrote:
Hi,
We hope this email finds you well. We are writing to invite you to yet another “Ask me Anything” meeting, where you can ask our ECEIG mentors ANYTHING!
During this teleconference, our mentors will be volunteering their time to answer any questions you may have about how to further develop your research, how to advance in your career, or whatever questions you may have regarding your involvement in RDA.
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Hi Andi,
I could give a short report on the adoption experience of the Deep Carbon Observatory Data Portal. We’re almost done.
In short: it went really well, and we were able to adopt most of the specific Recommendations through simple application of existing tools and standards (e.g. Vivo, PROV ontology). We had a pretty simple environment though.
Our next experiment will be much more complex. I hope to be able to say a bit about that too. We’re actually still working the use case, but it will involve multiple and complex types of versioning, data uncertainties, provenance, and sustainability strategies. Intrigued? 🙂
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

Nice paper Amir. I’m beginning to understand the landscape.
cheers,
-m.
On 30 May 2018, at 19:42, amiraryani wrote:
Dear all, I am glad to share with you this Nature article: https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata201899
This article is the result of the collaboration between the DDRI WG participants, and it described the
large scale graph that connects data repositories based on the DDRI WG recommendation.
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Hi Andi,
I will present briefly on the Deep Carbon Observatory adoption effort. Slides are here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1qPehf3q-IwuC2f2Sj4dgJspLr_irE61o…
I also aded this link to the notes page for the session.
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

Done. Finally. It’s much better than earlier versions. Thanks.
cheers,
-m.
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Dear All
I have read and made a few comments on the docu. I would encourage you all to please read this and give your feedback.
Cheers
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[Mark Parsons]

Alas I am in meetings all day tomorrow too and will have to miss this as well.
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

I will be driving from a friends house in Bethesda as early as I need to pick-up people and get there for the start of the meeting.
-m.
On 9 Jan 2018, at 16:12, jwyngaard wrote:
Mark, when will you being driving over on Thursday?
++++++++++++++++
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Centre for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:36 PM, rkoskela wrote:
If we time it right, there’s a NIST shuttle from Shady Grove at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour – I think the trip from White Flint to Shady Grove is 11 min (according to TripPlanner) so 12:30 at White Flint is doable but close
IT! INERARY 1 – 11 MINS
Leave at: 12:32pm
Arrive at: 12:42pm
WHITE FLINT METRO STATION
Red Line to SHADY GROVE
Exit at SHADY GROVE METRO STATION
NIST Metro Shuttle/Public Bus Transportation:
NIST provides shu! ttle service for official visitors and staff to and from the Shady Grove Metro Station from 6:45 am to 6:10 pm. Visitors using Metro can meet the NIST shuttle at the east side of the Shady Grove Metro Station at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour. The shuttle runs daily from 6:45 am to 6:10 pm. The NIST shuttle will stop at “Bus Bay C.” The last NIST shuttle leaves Shady Grove Metro at 6:10 pm. The shuttle returns to the station from NIST on the hour and half-hour from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. The shuttle departs from the front of the NIST Administration Building (101) at 5 and 35 minutes past the hour. The last NIST shuttle leaves NIST at 6:00 p.m. The ride between NIST and the Shady Grove Metro Station takes approximately 15 minutes, depending on traffic conditions. Registered conference attendees do not need to get off the NIST Metro Shuttle/Public Transportation upon arrival at the NIST Visitor Center. Please have your Gate Dash Pass and a photo ID* ready to show the Security Officer when he/she boards the shuttle.
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:27 PM, rdowns wrote:
Hi Jane,
I will be traveling from ESIP to the NIST on Thursday around 12:30 p.m. and believe that there are others who will be making the same trip at that same time as well. I was thinking of taking the Metro to Shady Grove, then finding a ride to the NIST.
Thanks,
Bob
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:22 PM, jwyngaard wrote:
Anyone want to share a ride at either of these times
Wednesday 4pm: ESIP>NIST
(and back at some point)
Thursday 12:30: ESIP>NIST
(1 way only for me)
Jane W
++++++++++++++++
Jane Wyngaard, PhD
Data Science Technologist
Centre for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:51 PM, yarmey wrote:
Hi all,
I am so sorry for the meeting overlap and resulting mess! I had coordinated the dates with the ESIP team early on, but the best laid plans…
I am leaving Bethesda for Gaithersburg tomorrow (Wednesday) morning as well and am happy to share a cab or coordinate as needed.
Many thanks (and apologies again!),
Lynn
From: on behalf of Kerstin Lehnert
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:24 PM
To: “***@***.***-groups.org”
Subject: Re: [8th_wgig_chairs_mtg] meeting location
I have the same issue. I move to the hotel in Gaithersburg tomorrow because I have to be at the ESIP business meeting, and will be at the NIST shuttle with all my luggage. Need to come back to ESIP on Thursday morning for the CDF meeting.
Rebecca, maybe we should share a cab? Steve Diggs has a car and will drive tomorrow after the morning session.
Kerstin
On 1/9/18 13:32, rkoskela wrote:
Will there be a shuttle run Thursday? If so, please add me to the list.
This is going to be a crazy week – ESIP moved their meeting so I’ll be going back and forth between the 2 meetings. I
switch hotels tonight, come back here (White Flint station) tomorrow am and then back to Shady Grove for RDA tomorrow
afternoon. I’m going to time it so that I can get the NIST shuttle from Shady Grove to NIST. I’ll miss a small portion of
Thursday because I have to do a presentation at ESIP but after that it wi ll be just RDA.
Have you had your meeting with Jayne yet?
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University of New Mexico
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, hanisch wrote:
Note that the RDA WG/IG Chairs meeting will be in Building 101, Lecture Room B, not D.
When you come through the main entry of 101, turn left down the corridor with the windows on your left. LR B is on the right, past the lobby area.
If anyone is in need of transportation let me know – I could do a shuttle run and provide some rides.
Bob
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I’ll have a car and can shuttle folks on Thursday and Friday. I won’t be there Wednesday.
cheers,
-m.
On 9 Jan 2018, at 14:36, rkoskela wrote:
If we time it right, there’s a NIST shuttle from Shady Grove at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour – I think the trip from White Flint to Shady Grove is 11 min (according to TripPlanner) so 12:30 at White Flint is doable but close
ITINERARY 1 – 11 MINS
Leave at: 12:32pm
Arrive at: 12:42pm
WHITE FLINT METRO STATION
Red Line to SHADY GROVE
Exit at SHADY GROVE METRO STATION
NIST Metro Shuttle/Public Bus Transportation:
NIST provides shuttle service for official visitors and staff to and from the Shady Grove Metro Station from 6:45 am to 6:10 pm. Visitors using Metro ca! n meet the NIST shuttle at the east side of the Shady Grove Metro Station at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour. The shuttle runs daily from 6:45 am to 6:10 pm. The NIST shuttle will stop at “Bus Bay C.” The last NIST shuttle leaves Shady Grove Metro at 6:10 pm. The shuttle returns to the station from NIST on the hour and half-hour from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. The shuttle departs from the front of the NIST Administration Building (101) at 5 and 35 minutes past the hour. The last NIST shuttle leaves NIST at 6:00 p.m. The ride between NIST and the Shady Grove! Metro Station takes approximately 15 minutes, depending on traffic conditions. Registered conference attendees do not need to get off the NIST Metro Shuttle/Public Transportation upon arrival at the NIST Visitor Center. Please have your Gate Dash Pass and a photo ID* ready to show the Security Officer when he/she boards the shuttle.
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
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Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:27 PM, rdowns wrote:
Hi Jane,
I will be traveling from ESIP to the NIST on Thursday around 12:30 p.m. and believe that there are others who will be making the same trip at that same time as well. I was thinking of taking the Metro to Shady Grove, then finding a ride to the NIST.
Thanks,
Bob
Robert R. Downs, PhD
Senior Digital Archivist and Senior Staff Associate Officer of Research
Acting Head of Cyberinfrastructure and Informatics Research and Development
Center for International Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN),
The Earth Institute, Columbia University
P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 9W, Palisades, NY 10964 USA
Voice: 845-365-8985; fax: 845-365-8922
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:22 PM, jwyngaard wrote:
Anyone want to share a ride at either of these times
Wednesday 4pm: ESIP>NIST
(and back at some point)
Thursday 12:30: ESIP>NIST
(1 way only for me)
Jane W
++++++++++++++++
Jane Wyngaard, PhD
Data Science Technologist
Centre for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:51 PM, yarmey wrote:
Hi all,
I am so sorry for the meeting overlap and resulting mess! I had coordinated the dates with the ESIP team early on, but the best laid plans…
I am leaving Bethesda for Gaithersburg tomorrow (Wednesday) morning as well and am happy to share a cab or coordinate as needed.
Many thanks (and apologies again!),
Lynn
From: on behalf of Kerstin Lehnert
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:24 PM
To: “***@***.***-groups.org”
Subject: Re: [8th_wgig_chairs_mtg] meeting location
I have the same issue. I move to the hotel in Gaithersburg tomorrow because I have to be at the ESIP business meeting, and will be at the NIST shuttle with all my luggage. Need to come back to ESIP on Thursday morning for the CDF meeting.
Rebecca, maybe we should share a cab? Steve Diggs has a car and will drive tomorrow after the morning session.
Kerstin
On 1/9/18 13:32, rkoskela wrote:
Will there be a shuttle run Thursday? If so, please add me to the list.
This is going to be a crazy week – ESIP moved their meeting so I’ll be going back and forth between the 2 meetings. I
switch hotels tonight, come back here (White Flint station) tomorrow am and then back to Shady Grove for RDA tomorrow
afternoon. I’m going to time it so that I can get the NIST shuttle from Shady Grove to NIST. I’ll miss a small portion of
Thursday because I have to do a presentation at ESIP but after that it wi ll be just RDA.
Have you had your meeting with Jayne yet?
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, hanisch wrote:
Note that the RDA WG/IG Chairs meeting will be in Building 101, Lecture Room B, not D.
When you come through the main entry of 101, turn left down the corridor with the windows on your left. LR B is on the right, past the lobby area.
If anyone is in need of transportation let me know – I could do a shuttle run and provide some rides.
Bob
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Director, Office of Data and Informatics
Material Measurement Laboratory
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Gaithersburg, Maryland USA
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[Mark Parsons]

Yes data are often boundary objects, but I think PIDS are BOs too. They are not file names. They are more complex than that, and they are often extended in local use beyond what they mean globally. (As BOs do) For example the DCO-ID is used for many objects in man ways within the DCO data portal, but Vivo (for one) uses them in a much more narrow sense.
I think this is part of the profile type question being discussed in the others thread.
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

I haven’t read this long thread, but why wasn’t sent to the whole pid-kernel group (which I copy now).
Y’all are making it more difficult than necessary to manage the email onslaught.
cheers,
-m.

[Mark Parsons]

Sorry that email came across very messy.
See it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q2Xb9hGGYT0RJnGzqkGI_BtcVwAjDJfopVmx…
cheers,
-m. =

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