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Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC

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  • #110585

    Juan Bicarregui
    Participant

    Dear all,
    Apologies again for not making the meeting.
    I’ve had a look through the doc and am very impressed by it’s thoroughness. Well done everyone.
    There seems to be disagreement, however, about whether the RA reps should have voting rights on Council.
    I guess this was probably discussed at the meeting(?)
    Perhaps the best way forward is to highlight this as an open question and add a short discussion of pros and cons of each side? Then we can all add our views and, I hope, agree on the reasons for each side of the argument, rather than disagree on the conclusion!
    Thesis, antithesis, synthesis,….
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: borrel2=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of mcintold
    Sent: 11 October 2018 15:35
    To: RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Thanks for a great meeting today…we are almost there with the Regional Engagement Framework.
    Based on the discussion on the call, I have
    Updated the outline for Appendix 1 – Template for Formal Partnership (page 14): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ix0atyLRQEbqKWtLBkqev3u4IqOuK9-ekMvV
    Revised the draft RDA-US Partnership agreement: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14YTg71fywNhILAZMMnrmIl3JHsWwgcLVlRBB
    Please let me know if you have any direct questions regarding this or simply add them to comments in the documents.
    Cheers,
    Leslie
    Leslie McIntosh, PhD, MPH
    Executive Director
    Research Data Alliance – US
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    Amos Eaton 210
    110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180
    +1 314.200.5838 (Google voice)
    On Oct 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement Task Force,
    a gentle reminder that the Regional Engagement Task Force meeting is scheduled for 11 UTC on 11 October 2018
    The go to meeting link is: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    (Dial in details are at the bottom of the message).
    Items on the agenda for tomorrow are:
    Agenda Items
    1. Regional Engagement Framework
    * Governance
    * Document
    2. US Grant. – International Network of Networks
    3. P13 (brief)
    4. Botswana Meeting
    5. Po! st Botswana
    The meeting notes (in the google folder) are available at – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow
    Hilary
    Regional Engagement Task Force Meeting
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47! 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
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  • #130907

    Ingrid Dillo
    Member

    Hi Juan,
    Yes, we made a lot of progress over the last three meetings. With respect to voting rights of RA reps, we have decided not to do that. The idea now is to also change the role of the FF, to accommodate representatives from contributing funders. See meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Have a nice weekend!
    Ingrid
    On 12/10/2018, 13:41, “juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of JuanBicarregui” wrote:
    Dear all,
    Apologies again for not making the meeting.
    I’ve had a look through the doc and am very impressed by it’s thoroughness. Well done everyone.
    There seems to be disagreement, however, about whether the RA reps should have voting rights on Council.
    I guess this was probably discussed at the meeting(?)
    Perhaps the best way forward is to highlight this as an open question and add a short discussion of pros and cons of each side? Then we can all add our views and, I hope, agree on the reasons for each side of the argument, rather than disagree on the conclusion!
    Thesis, antithesis, synthesis,….
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: borrel2=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of mcintold
    Sent: 11 October 2018 15:35
    To: RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Thanks for a great meeting today…we are almost there with the Regional Engagement Framework.
    Based on the discussion on the call, I have
    Updated the outline for Appendix 1 – Template for Formal Partnership (page 14): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ix0atyLRQEbqKWtLBkqev3u4IqOuK9-ekMvV
    Revised the draft RDA-US Partnership agreement: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14YTg71fywNhILAZMMnrmIl3JHsWwgcLVlRBB
    Please let me know if you have any direct questions regarding this or simply add them to comments in the documents.
    Cheers,
    Leslie
    Leslie McIntosh, PhD, MPH
    Executive Director
    Research Data Alliance – US
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    Amos Eaton 210
    110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180
    +1 314.200.5838 (Google voice)
    On Oct 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement Task Force,
    a gentle reminder that the Regional Engagement Task Force meeting is scheduled for 11 UTC on 11 October 2018
    The go to meeting link is: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    (Dial in details are at the bottom of the message).
    Items on the agenda for tomorrow are:
    Agenda Items
    1. Regional Engagement Framework
    * Governance
    * Document
    2. US Grant. – International Network of Networks
    3. P13 (brief)
    4. Botswana Meeting
    5. Po! st Botswana
    The meeting notes (in the google folder) are available at – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow
    Hilary
    Regional Engagement Task Force Meeting
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47! 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    Registration is now open for International Data Week (comprising SciDataCon and the 12th RDA Plenary Meeting), 5-8 November 2018, Gaborone, Botswana: register here!
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  • #130906

    OK – I’m glad there has been a decision and am happy with the way it went. The text I saw saying there were voting rights must have been old text.
    Can I check my understanding of the structure then: there are three concentric circles of regional/funder representation.
    – Smallest circle – Regional Advisory Board – Regions that are already contributing.
    – Middle circle – Regional Assembly – RAB plus Regions that are considering contributing.
    – Outer circle – RAB plus any other funder that wishes to participate.
    Is that right?
    What about a research funder that wants to contribute but does not represent a region (eg Wellcome, Sloan, Gates, etc….)?
    Juan.
    —–Original Message—–
    From: Ingrid Dillo [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 12 October 2018 12:45
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Hi Juan,
    Yes, we made a lot of progress over the last three meetings. With respect to voting rights of RA reps, we have decided not to do that. The idea now is to also change the role of the FF, to accommodate representatives from contributing funders. See meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Have a nice weekend!
    Ingrid
    On 12/10/2018, 13:41, “juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of JuanBicarregui” wrote:
    Dear all,
    Apologies again for not making the meeting.
    I’ve had a look through the doc and am very impressed by it’s thoroughness. Well done everyone.
    There seems to be disagreement, however, about whether the RA reps should have voting rights on Council.
    I guess this was probably discussed at the meeting(?)
    Perhaps the best way forward is to highlight this as an open question and add a short discussion of pros and cons of each side? Then we can all add our views and, I hope, agree on the reasons for each side of the argument, rather than disagree on the conclusion!
    Thesis, antithesis, synthesis,….
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: borrel2=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of mcintold
    Sent: 11 October 2018 15:35
    To: RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Thanks for a great meeting today…we are almost there with the Regional Engagement Framework.
    Based on the discussion on the call, I have
    Updated the outline for Appendix 1 – Template for Formal Partnership (page 14): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ix0atyLRQEbqKWtLBkqev3u4IqOuK9-ekMvV
    Revised the draft RDA-US Partnership agreement: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14YTg71fywNhILAZMMnrmIl3JHsWwgcLVlRBB
    Please let me know if you have any direct questions regarding this or simply add them to comments in the documents.
    Cheers,
    Leslie
    Leslie McIntosh, PhD, MPH
    Executive Director
    Research Data Alliance – US
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    Amos Eaton 210
    110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180
    +1 314.200.5838 (Google voice)
    On Oct 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement Task Force,
    a gentle reminder that the Regional Engagement Task Force meeting is scheduled for 11 UTC on 11 October 2018
    The go to meeting link is: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    (Dial in details are at the bottom of the message).
    Items on the agenda for tomorrow are:
    Agenda Items
    1. Regional Engagement Framework
    * Governance
    * Document
    2. US Grant. – International Network of Networks
    3. P13 (brief)
    4. Botswana Meeting
    5. Po! st Botswana
    The meeting notes (in the google folder) are available at – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow
    Hilary
    Regional Engagement Task Force Meeting
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47! 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    Registration is now open for International Data Week (comprising SciDataCon and the 12th RDA Plenary Meeting), 5-8 November 2018, Gaborone, Botswana: register here!
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  • #130905

    Hi Juan,
    I’ll step in on this one …
    – Smallest circle – Regional Advisory Board – Regions that are already
    contributing.
    – Middle circle – Regional Assembly – RAB plus Regions that are
    considering contributing.
    – Outer circle – RAB plus any other funder that wishes to participate
    Is that right?
    The first 2 are, the 3rd one is a Funders Forum that also incorporates non
    “regional” funders like Sloan, Wellcome etc.
    Does that make sense?
    Hilary
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    *Registration is now open for International Data Week *(comprising
    SciDataCon and the 12th RDA Plenary Meeting
    ),
    5-8 November 2018, Gaborone, Botswana: *register here!*

    The information contained in this message and any attachments are
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    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not
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    and irrevocably delete or destroy this message and any copies.
    On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 14:34, Juan Bicarregui – UKRI STFC <
    ***@***.***> wrote:

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  • #130904

    Yes, that’s what I understood. That’s why I asked about the case where a non-regional funder, ie one in the outer circle, also wants to make a financial contribution (ie to be in the inner circle).
    Sarah’s note says this is not for now, we’ll cross that bridge when it comes.
    Juan.
    From: Hilary Hanahoe [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 12 October 2018 13:40
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Cc: Ingrid Dillo; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Hi Juan,
    I’ll step in on this one …
    – Smallest circle – Regional Advisory Board – Regions that are already contributing.
    – Middle circle – Regional Assembly – RAB plus Regions that are considering contributing.
    – Outer circle – RAB plus any other funder that wishes to participate
    Is that right?
    The first 2 are, the 3rd one is a Funders Forum that also incorporates non “regional” funders like Sloan, Wellcome etc.
    Does that make sense?
    Hilary
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    Registration is now open for International Data Week (comprising SciDataCon and the 12th RDA Plenary Meeting), 5-8 November 2018, Gaborone, Botswana: register here!
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately
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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 14:34, Juan Bicarregui – UKRI STFC wrote:
    OK – I’m glad there has been a decision and am happy with the way it went. The text I saw saying there were voting rights must have been old text.
    Can I check my understanding of the structure then: there are three concentric circles of regional/funder representation.
    – Smallest circle – Regional Advisory Board – Regions that are already contributing.
    – Middle circle – Regional Assembly – RAB plus Regions that are considering contributing.
    – Outer circle – RAB plus any other funder that wishes to participate.
    Is that right?
    What about a research funder that wants to contribute but does not represent a region (eg Wellcome, Sloan, Gates, etc….)?
    Juan.
    —–Original Message—–
    From: Ingrid Dillo [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 12 October 2018 12:45
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Hi Juan,
    Yes, we made a lot of progress over the last three meetings. With respect to voting rights of RA reps, we have decided not to do that. The idea now is to also change the role of the FF, to accommodate representatives from contributing funders. See meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Have a nice weekend!
    Ingrid
    On 12/10/2018, 13:41, “juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of JuanBicarregui” <***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of ***@***.***> wrote:
    Dear all,
    Apologies again for not making the meeting.
    I’ve had a look through the doc and am very impressed by it’s thoroughness. Well done everyone.
    There seems to be disagreement, however, about whether the RA reps should have voting rights on Council.
    I guess this was probably discussed at the meeting(?)
    Perhaps the best way forward is to highlight this as an open question and add a short discussion of pros and cons of each side? Then we can all add our views and, I hope, agree on the reasons for each side of the argument, rather than disagree on the conclusion!
    Thesis, antithesis, synthesis,….
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: borrel2=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of mcintold
    Sent: 11 October 2018 15:35
    To: RDA Regional Engagement Discussion Group
    Cc: Hilary Hanahoe
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] Regional Engagement Meeting Reminder – 11 Oct 11UTC
    Thanks for a great meeting today…we are almost there with the Regional Engagement Framework.
    Based on the discussion on the call, I have
    Updated the outline for Appendix 1 – Template for Formal Partnership (page 14): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ix0atyLRQEbqKWtLBkqev3u4IqOuK9-ekMvV
    Revised the draft RDA-US Partnership agreement: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14YTg71fywNhILAZMMnrmIl3JHsWwgcLVlRBB
    Please let me know if you have any direct questions regarding this or simply add them to comments in the documents.
    Cheers,
    Leslie
    Leslie McIntosh, PhD, MPH
    Executive Director
    Research Data Alliance – US
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    Amos Eaton 210
    110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180
    +1 314.200.5838 (Google voice)
    On Oct 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Hilary Hanahoe > wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement Task Force,
    a gentle reminder that the Regional Engagement Task Force meeting is scheduled for 11 UTC on 11 October 2018
    The go to meeting link is: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    (Dial in details are at the bottom of the message).
    Items on the agenda for tomorrow are:
    Agenda Items
    1. Regional Engagement Framework
    * Governance
    * Document
    2. US Grant. – International Network of Networks
    3. P13 (brief)
    4. Botswana Meeting
    5. Po! st Botswana
    The meeting notes (in the google folder) are available at – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gY9CGSeTfpeFDeSUhZGK6QwFmPZSn3pzJt_H
    Looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow
    Hilary
    Regional Engagement Task Force Meeting
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47! 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***>
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    Registration is now open for International Data Week (comprising SciDataCon and the 12th RDA Plenary Meeting), 5-8 November 2018, Gaborone, Botswana: register here!
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not!
    the
    intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately
    and irrevocably delete or destroy this message and any copies.

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