[RDA Admin]

Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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Discussion

[Juan Bicarregui]

Dear Mark and all,
I agree with the suggestion – there is a large overlap between the aims of the two groups and so it is a good idea to merge them.
Best wishes,
Juan.
– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: 11 July 2019 13:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
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[Dale Peters]

Hi All!
The recommendation to rationalise the NDS IG in the GOSC initiative is supported – with thanks to NDS-IG co-chairs and members for valuable engagements.
Kind regards,
Dale
[cid:***@***.***]
Dr Dale Peters
Director
UCT eResearch
+27 21 650 5932
***@***.***
eresearch.uct.ac.za
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– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
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[Sandra Gesing]

Dear all,
I agree – I think it’s a great idea to merge them!
Best,
Sandra
————————————————————————————————————
Sandra Gesing
Associate Research Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Computational Scientist, Center for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
http://www3.nd.edu/~sgesing
————————————————————————————————————

[Rebecca Koskela]

I also agree but I am having difficulty finding the Global Open Science
Commons (GOSC) Interest Group on
the RDA website. If the proposed group hasn’t been endorsed yet, is there
a way to follow the
progress so that we can sign up as members?
Thanks,
Rebecca
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007

[Anita de Waard]

I’m always for merging of groups, but what is the scope and goal of the ’Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group’?
In my experience, the clearer the outputs, the more engaged WG members are. I’d love to contribute to a group with a clear goal, and a set of proposed outputs – and thoughts up front on how those outputs will be used, and by whom.
Anita
From: rkoskela=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of rkoskela
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:42 AM
To: Sandra Gesing ; National Data Services IG
Cc: Dale.Peters ; mleggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I also agree but I am having difficulty finding the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group on
the RDA website. If the proposed group hasn’t been endorsed yet, is there a way to follow the
progress so that we can sign up as members?
Thanks,
Rebecca
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM Sandra Gesing wrote:
Dear all,
I agree – I think it’s a great idea to merge them!
Best,
Sandra
————————————————————————————————————
Sandra Gesing
Associate Research Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Computational Scientist, Center for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
http://www3.nd.edu/~sgesing
————————————————————————————————————
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:29 AM Dale.Peters wrote:
Hi All!
The recommendation to rationalise the NDS IG in the GOSC initiative is supported – with thanks to NDS-IG co-chairs and members for valuable engagements.
Kind regards,
Dale
[cid:***@***.***]
Dr Dale Peters
Director
UCT eResearch
+27 21 650 5932
***@***.***
eresearch.uct.ac.za
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– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
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[RDA Admin]

Hi Rebecca, I will provide more information when I have something that can be shared. There is nothing yet about the new group on the site as their Case Statement hasn’t yet been approved. I will let everyone on the list know as soon as I do!
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
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From: Rebecca Koskela
Reply-To: “***@***.***”
Date: Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 12:41
To: Sandra Gesing
Cc: “Dale.Peters” , National Data Services IG , Mark Leggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I also agree but I am having difficulty finding the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group on
the RDA website. If the proposed group hasn’t been endorsed yet, is there a way to follow the
progress so that we can sign up as members?
Thanks,
Rebecca
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM Sandra Gesing wrote:
Dear all,
I agree – I think it’s a great idea to merge them!
Best,
Sandra
————————————————————————————————————
Sandra Gesing
Associate Research Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Computational Scientist, Center for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
http://www3.nd.edu/~sgesing
————————————————————————————————————
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:29 AM Dale.Peters wrote:
Hi All!
The recommendation to rationalise the NDS IG in the GOSC initiative is supported – with thanks to NDS-IG co-chairs and members for valuable engagements.
Kind regards,
Dale
[cid:16be18219754ce8e91]
Dr Dale Peters
Director
UCT eResearch
+27 21 650 5932
***@***.***
eresearch.uct.ac.za
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– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
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[Keith Russell]

Hi Mark,
I think that makes perfect sense and also provides an opportunity for
direction for an interest group.
E.g: how to establish a national or regional data commons or cloud? What
elements need to be considered? Possible models for governance and
inclusion? How to connect your national data service or cloud/commons with
other cloud/commons emerging around the world?
Kind regards,
Keith
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[Christine Kirkpatrick]

I am eager to see the formation and description of the GOSC group as well and defer to someone from GOSC to answer. To explain more from the NDS IG side… we found that now we’re an established group, that the topics of interest have moved from ‘what countries have national data services and what are they providing’ to a deeper dive into those services and platforms. As well, we’ve struggled somewhat to include relevant services and projects while keeping the scope at the country level. As we’ve seen, not all countries have an NDS, but there are other successful projects relevant to the members of the IG. We see this as a logical evolution of the NDS IG – to now focus less on the scope of the service, to be more inclusive, and highlight the capabilities and connection of data commons and services.
Thanks everyone for being open to this!
Christine
From: a.dewaard=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of Anita de Waard
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:52 AM
To: rkoskela ; Sandra Gesing ; National Data Services IG
Cc: Dale.Peters ; mleggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I’m always for merging of groups, but what is the scope and goal of the ’Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group’?
In my experience, the clearer the outputs, the more engaged WG members are. I’d love to contribute to a group with a clear goal, and a set of proposed outputs – and thoughts up front on how those outputs will be used, and by whom.
Anita
From: rkoskela=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of rkoskela
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:42 AM
To: Sandra Gesing ; National Data Services IG
Cc: Dale.Peters ; mleggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I also agree but I am having difficulty finding the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group on
the RDA website. If the proposed group hasn’t been endorsed yet, is there a way to follow the
progress so that we can sign up as members?
Thanks,
Rebecca
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM Sandra Gesing wrote:
Dear all,
I agree – I think it’s a great idea to merge them!
Best,
Sandra
————————————————————————————————————
Sandra Gesing
Associate Research Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Computational Scientist, Center for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
http://www3.nd.edu/~sgesing
————————————————————————————————————
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:29 AM Dale.Peters wrote:
Hi All!
The recommendation to rationalise the NDS IG in the GOSC initiative is supported – with thanks to NDS-IG co-chairs and members for valuable engagements.
Kind regards,
Dale
[cid:***@***.***]
Dr Dale Peters
Director
UCT eResearch
+27 21 650 5932
***@***.***
eresearch.uct.ac.za
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– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
Mark
Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
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[Cahyo Trianggoro]

Hi Mark,
Thank you for allowing me involve in this discussion as the new member of
the NDS IG. It was very interesting for the initiative to merge NDS to
GOSC. Personally, I really curious with the idea from Keith Russel
regarding the governance of national or regional data services since we are
in Indonesia are trying to establish National Data Service.
Warm Regards,
Cahyo Trianggoro
Researcher
*Center for Scientific Data and Documentation (PDII)Indonesia Institute of
Sciences (LIPI)*
*Jl. Jenderal Gatot Subroto 10, Jakarta 12710*
*Contact: +62878 0574 4940Phone: (+62 21) 573 3465, Fax. (+62 21) 573 3467*

[Kenton McHenry]

Makes sense. I’m completely supportive of this merger. Will the co-chairs of the NDS-IG have some role within the new GOSC interest group?
Kenton McHenry, Ph.D.
Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division
National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
On Jul 11, 2019, at 7:59 PM, christine wrote:
I am eager to see the formation and description of the GOSC group as well and defer to someone from GOSC to answer. To explain more from the NDS IG side… we found that now we’re an established group, that the topics of interest have moved from ‘what countries have national data services and what are they providing’ to a deeper dive into those services and platforms. As well, we’ve struggled somewhat to include relevant services and projects while keeping the scope at the country level. As we’ve seen, not all countries have an NDS, but there are other successful projects relevant to the members of the IG. We see this as a logical evolution of the NDS IG – to now focus less on the scope of the service, to be more inclusive, and highlight the capabilities and connection of data commons and services.
Thanks everyone for being open to this!
Christine
From: a.dewaard=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of Anita de Waard
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:52 AM
To: rkoskela ; Sandra Gesing ; National Data Services IG
Cc: Dale.Peters ; mleggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I’m always for merging of groups, but what is the scope and goal of the ’Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group’?
In my experience, the clearer the outputs, the more engaged WG members are. I’d love to contribute to a group with a clear goal, and a set of proposed outputs – and thoughts up front on how those outputs will be used, and by whom.
Anita
From: rkoskela=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of rkoskela
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:42 AM
To: Sandra Gesing ; National Data Services IG
Cc: Dale.Peters ; mleggott
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
I also agree but I am having difficulty finding the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group on
the RDA website. If the proposed group hasn’t been endorsed yet, is there a way to follow the
progress so that we can sign up as members?
Thanks,
Rebecca
Executive Director, DataONE
University of New Mexico
1312 Basehart SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Email: ***@***.***
Cell: (505) 382-0890
Fax: (505) 246-6007
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM Sandra Gesing wrote:
Dear all,
I agree – I think it’s a great idea to merge them!
Best,
Sandra
————————————————————————————————————
Sandra Gesing
Associate Research Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Computational Scientist, Center for Research Computing
University of Notre Dame
http://www3.nd.edu/~sgesing
————————————————————————————————————
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:29 AM Dale.Peters wrote:
Hi All!
The recommendation to rationalise the NDS IG in the GOSC initiative is supported – with thanks to NDS-IG co-chairs and members for valuable engagements.
Kind regards,
Dale

Dr Dale Peters
Director
UCT eResearch
+27 21 650 5932
***@***.***
eresearch.uct.ac.za

– Show quoted text -From: mark.leggott=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of mleggott
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:59
To: National Data Services IG
Subject: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Colleagues,
The National Data Services Interest Group has been facilitating the discussion of data services in a national/regional context since Plenary 5. The most recent IG meeting was held at P12 in Gaborone, and the most recent output of the IG was a summary of selected National Data Services based on a survey. There was no submission for the IG for the previous plenary in Philadelphia, and there was no submission for the upcoming plenary in Helsinki.
Given recent efforts to create the Global Open Science Commons (GOSC) Interest Group (which emerged from the last couple of Plenaries from discussion of the GOSC BOF group), and the common interests and overlaps with the National Data Services IG, we are recommending that the NDS IG be put on hold, and current IG members direct their attention to the GOSC efforts. There is a strong likelihood that the GOSC discussion will lead to the creation of both an Interest Group, and an initial Working Group, so there will be ample opportunity for ongoing discussion of national/international data services, and their interoperability at the international scale. We will endeavour to share the initial descriptions of the GOSC group(s) as soon as possible, so NDS IG Members can get a better sense of the synergies.
As the current co-chairs of the NDS IG, we would like to provide the Members with an opportunity to comment on this recommendation, so please let us know via this NDS IG list if you have feedback. Thanks,
Sent on behalf of the NDS IG Co-Chairs: Adrian Burton, Christine Kirkpatrick, Mark Leggott
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[Ville Tenhunen]

Hi all,
For example we have in Finland NDS and the development project for it
(nowadays called “Fairdata”). Additionally our open science initiaticves
has moved from the ministry driven approach to the community driven
approach (https://avointiede.fi/en/frontpage). These two things (NDS and
open science initiative) are somehow separate (e.g. they are managed
separately). Still we can think NDS as a part of open science
functionalities.
I think it might be good idea to look all these thing from the broader
perspective and if there is strictly NDS related issues, then we can
restart old IG or initiate specific WG.
So, I agree 🙂
BR,
Ville

[Adrian Burton]

Hi all,
there was a BOF session of the proposed GOSC group at the last plenary in
Philadelphia. See agenda here with some further links:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/bof-coordinating-global-open-science-commons…
The content of that meeting touched quite a few areas in common with NDS
IG: types of services; types of business models; pitching the vision;
technical interoperability. That meeting seemed to indicate to me that
indeed there were indeed considerable shared issues.
i’ll try and put my hands on the meeting notes.
cheers,
Adrian
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:53 PM vtenhunen
wrote:

[Lesley Wyborn]

Dear all
I Agree with the merger – there are too many groups in RDA.
Merging ones with similar ambitions is a great idea.
Take care
Lesley
From: on behalf of Adrian Burton
Date: Friday, 12 July 2019 at 1:42 am
To: vtenhunen , National Data Services IG
Subject: Re: [national-data-services] Update on the RDA NDS Interest Group
Hi all,
there was a BOF session of the proposed GOSC group at the last plenary in Philadelphia. See agenda here with some further links:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/bof-coordinating-global-open-science-commons…
The content of that meeting touched quite a few areas in common with NDS IG: types of services; types of business models; pitching the vision; technical interoperability. That meeting seemed to indicate to me that indeed there were indeed considerable shared issues.
i’ll try and put my hands on the meeting notes.
cheers,
Adrian
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:53 PM vtenhunen wrote:
Hi all,
For example we have in Finland NDS and the development project for it
(nowadays called “Fairdata”). Additionally our open science initiaticves
has moved from the ministry driven approach to the community driven
approach (https://avointiede.fi/en/frontpage). These two things (NDS and
open science initiative) are somehow separate (e.g. they are managed
separately). Still we can think NDS as a part of open science
functionalities.
I think it might be good idea to look all these thing from the broader
perspective and if there is strictly NDS related issues, then we can
restart old IG or initiate specific WG.
So, I agree 🙂
BR,
Ville

[Leandro Neumann Ciuffo]

In case of merge, please let us know the utltimate group URL (in case it changes).
regards,
Leandro Ciuffo
RNP – Rede Nacional de Ensino e Pesquisa
ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9747-2279

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