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RE: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL

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    Juan Bicarregui
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    Mark,
    Here is version of the RDA as a Standardisation body paper for Council.
    (As discussed, we still haven’t found out which group is talking to ISO but will send that on if we do.)
    Juan.
    – Show quoted text -From: Sandra Collins [***@***.***]
    Sent: 27 March 2017 21:35
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); ‘***@***.***-itservices.com’; ***@***.***; Francoise Genova; Kay Raseroka; Sandra Collins; ‘jbminster’; Berman; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: FW: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL
    Dear all,
    I got a delivery failure for the group email, so I am resending with all your email addresses – please see below and attached final / near-final strategy drafts.
    Thanks! Sandra.
    From: Sandra Collins
    Sent: 25 March 2017 14:26
    Dear all,
    Mark has asked for our papers to be submitted by 31st March, for circulation to Council members, and to notify him if any papers will require more than 5 minutes on the Council agenda.
    Juan thanks very much for updating your paper. I like the format very much. I made two minor edits in the attached version, and there are two remaining questions:
    Francoise, do you know which group is looking at ISO standardisation?
    Hilary, is there any update on the MSP ICT standardisation?
    Otherwise I think this paper is ready to be submitted to Council before 31st March.
    Juan could you follow up these final questions (and also update the file name to Recommendations?).
    All, I made the final minor edits on the Infrastructure paper: I changed the order of the authors and asked Council to adopt. This is attached, and if no-one objects, we will submit to Council before 31st March.
    Francoise, would you be able to complete the Education paper before 31st March do you think? If not, we can progress it for the next Council meeting.
    Thanks all and see you in Barcelona! Sandra.
    From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
    Sent: 17 March 2017 16:54
    To: ***@***.***; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategists,
    Attached is a draft paper for Council on Standardisation for your consideration and comment.
    I’m not sure how much time Council will have to consider it. The agenda is really tight and this paper is just one part of our report which itself is just one of the Subcommittee reports.
    So I have kept the main paper down to one page and put the download of the web post and comments as an annex.
    I’ve not mentioned the BSI PAS matter, again in order to keep things simple.
    Comments welcome.
    Juan.
    From: parsom3=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parsons
    Sent: 10 March 2017 20:39
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    This is interesting, Juan. I was talking to the facilitator for the meeting later this month on defining our value proposition for industry. He asked if RDA would be willing to develop targeted WGs to address a particular industry need. I said it is conceivable, especially if they pay for it. This would be then similar to the PAS process, I reckon.
    cheers,
    -m.
    On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:12, JuanBicarregui wrote:
    Sending again in plain text as I got a strange bounce first time…
    From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Sent: 10 March 2017 17:04
    To: Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategy Committee,
    I just received the invitation below to a meeting organised by BSI who are considering developing a suite of standards on “Big Data”.
    Of course, BSI is just one of many national standards bodies and RDA should probably not favour any one of these over any other. But the actual standards are relevant and perhaps even more interesting is what they say about routes to ISO stnds:
    “PAS/BS/EN/ISO: PAS/BS initially given the complexity of the topic. With the aim of the document then becoming the basis of an ISO.”
    PAS and EN are described here:
    https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/our-services/developing-new-standards/Dev
    https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/DefEN/Pages/default.aspx
    We should think about these sorts of routes.
    I’ll let you know what I learn on at the meeting on 27 April.
    Juan.
    From: Tim McGarr [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 10 March 2017 11:14
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Subject: Big Data workshop to build standards committee – 27th April in Chiswick, London
    Juan,
    You have received this because of your involvement around workshops I ran last year on Big Data standards. The output of this was a set of 5 validated scopes for standards (see attached)
    At the time the outcome from the group was that the PAS route was most relevant and that the PASs should be developed in order of priority. To date we have not had a sponsor come forward, so I would like to propose an alternative route. Instead we would develop a new committee (with a name like Management of Big Data- MBD/1) and develop these as British Standards in parallel. In addition to this I want to discuss an idea on “Self Regulation on the use of Personal data in Commerce” (the attached CDC document provides further background).
    This initial Big Data stakeholder meeting will take place from 10am-2pm on Thursday 27th April 2017 in our offices in Chiswick (389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL).
    For each of the ideas we will discuss topics including what has changed since the original discussion and who is interested in getting involved in developing each respective standard.
    Please reply back to me to confirm your attendance. When the new committee is formed we will need a new chairperson. If you are interested in this role please contact me.
    Please feel free to forward on this email.
    Thank you,
    Tim
    Tim McGarr MBA
    Market Development Manager (Digital)
    T: +44 20 8996 7221 | M: +44 7500 571923
    ***@***.***
    BSI Group, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK
    bsigroup.com | Twitter | LinkedIn
    BSI Standards Limited is a member of BSI Group and is registered in England under number 7864997 with its registered address at 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, United Kingdom
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    Attached files:
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    CDC_Draft.pdf

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    Mark,
    Here is version of the RDA as a Standardisation body paper for Council.
    (As discussed, we still haven’t found out which group is talking to ISO but will send that on if we do.)
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: Sandra Collins [***@***.***]
    Sent: 27 March 2017 21:35
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); ‘***@***.***-itservices.com’; ***@***.***; Francoise Genova; Kay Raseroka; Sandra Collins; ‘jbminster’; Berman; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: FW: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL
    Dear all,
    I got a delivery failure for the group email, so I am resending with all your email addresses – please see below and attached final / near-final strategy drafts.
    Thanks! Sandra.
    From: Sandra Collins
    Sent: 25 March 2017 14:26
    Dear all,
    Mark has asked for our papers to be submitted by 31st March, for circulation to Council members, and to notify him if any papers will require more than 5 minutes on the Council agenda.
    Juan thanks very much for updating your paper. I like the format very much. I made two minor edits in the attached version, and there are two remaining questions:
    Francoise, do you know which group is looking at ISO standardisation?
    Hilary, is there any update on the MSP ICT standardisation?
    Otherwise I think this paper is ready to be submitted to Council before 31st March.
    Juan could you follow up these final questions (and also update the file name to Recommendations?).
    All, I made the final minor edits on the Infrastructure paper: I changed the order of the authors and asked Council to adopt. This is attached, and if no-one objects, we will submit to Council before 31st March.
    Francoise, would you be able to complete the Education paper before 31st March do you think? If not, we can progress it for the next Council meeting.
    Thanks all and see you in Barcelona! Sandra.
    – Show quoted text -From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
    Sent: 17 March 2017 16:54
    To: ***@***.***; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategists,
    Attached is a draft paper for Council on Standardisation for your consideration and comment.
    I’m not sure how much time Council will have to consider it. The agenda is really tight and this paper is just one part of our report which itself is just one of the Subcommittee reports.
    So I have kept the main paper down to one page and put the download of the web post and comments as an annex.
    I’ve not mentioned the BSI PAS matter, again in order to keep things simple.
    Comments welcome.
    Juan.
    From: parsom3=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parsons
    Sent: 10 March 2017 20:39
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    This is interesting, Juan. I was talking to the facilitator for the meeting later this month on defining our value proposition for industry. He asked if RDA would be willing to develop targeted WGs to address a particular industry need. I said it is conceivable, especially if they pay for it. This would be then similar to the PAS process, I reckon.
    cheers,
    -m.
    On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:12, JuanBicarregui wrote:
    Sending again in plain text as I got a strange bounce first time…
    From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Sent: 10 March 2017 17:04
    To: Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategy Committee,
    I just received the invitation below to a meeting organised by BSI who are considering developing a suite of standards on “Big Data”.
    Of course, BSI is just one of many national standards bodies and RDA should probably not favour any one of these over any other. But the actual standards are relevant and perhaps even more interesting is what they say about routes to ISO stnds:
    “PAS/BS/EN/ISO: PAS/BS initially given the complexity of the topic. With the aim of the document then becoming the basis of an ISO.”
    PAS and EN are described here:
    https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/our-services/developing-new-standards/Dev
    https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/DefEN/Pages/default.aspx
    We should think about these sorts of routes.
    I’ll let you know what I learn on at the meeting on 27 April.
    Juan.
    From: Tim McGarr [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 10 March 2017 11:14
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Subject: Big Data workshop to build standards committee – 27th April in Chiswick, London
    Juan,
    You have received this because of your involvement around workshops I ran last year on Big Data standards. The output of this was a set of 5 validated scopes for standards (see attached)
    At the time the outcome from the group was that the PAS route was most relevant and that the PASs should be developed in order of priority. To date we have not had a sponsor come forward, so I would like to propose an alternative route. Instead we would develop a new committee (with a name like Management of Big Data- MBD/1) and develop these as British Standards in parallel. In addition to this I want to discuss an idea on “Self Regulation on the use of Personal data in Commerce” (the attached CDC document provides further background).
    This initial Big Data stakeholder meeting will take place from 10am-2pm on Thursday 27th April 2017 in our offices in Chiswick (389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL).
    For each of the ideas we will discuss topics including what has changed since the original discussion and who is interested in getting involved in developing each respective standard.
    Please reply back to me to confirm your attendance. When the new committee is formed we will need a new chairperson. If you are interested in this role please contact me.
    Please feel free to forward on this email.
    Thank you,
    Tim
    Tim McGarr MBA
    Market Development Manager (Digital)
    T: +44 20 8996 7221 | M: +44 7500 571923
    ***@***.***
    BSI Group, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK
    bsigroup.com | Twitter | LinkedIn
    BSI Standards Limited is a member of BSI Group and is registered in England under number 7864997 with its registered address at 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, United Kingdom
    Please consider the environment before printing this email
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Visit the BSI website at http://www.bsigroup.com
    This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright
    material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only.
    Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email
    by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the
    reply facility in your email software.
    The British Standards Institution is incorporated by Royal Charter.
    This email has been scanned for all known viruses.
    Attached files:
    Big_Data_Scopes_for_further_development_v4.1.pdf
    CDC_Draft.pdf

    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/council-strategy-subcommittee/post/fw-
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    T? an r?omhphost seo (agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis) pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda agus d?fh?adfadh go mbeadh eolas inti at? faoi phribhl?id dhl?thi?il. N? ceadmhach ?s?id an r?omhphoist seo d??inne ach don t? ar seoladh chuige ?. Mura duitse an r?omhphost seo n? an t? at? freagrach as ? a sheoladh, t? cosc ar ch?ipe?il agus ar sheachadadh an r?omhphoist seo agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis chuig ?inne n? ?s?id a bhaint as a bhfuil ann; n? ceart an r?omhphost seo n? aon iat?n a l?amh. D?fh?adfadh go mbeadh cosc ioml?n dl?thi?il ar sceitheadh n? comhfhreagras n? aon ?s?id eile gan chead ar a bhfuil sa r?omhphost seo agus d?fh?adfadh s? a bheith ina chion coiri?il. M? fuair t? an r?omhphost seo tr? earr?id, d?an teagmh?il le bainisteoir an ch?rais @6030219
    Mark,
    Here is version of the RDA as a Standardisation body paper for Council.
    (As discussed, we still haven’t found out which group is talking to ISO but will send that on if we do.)
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: Sandra Collins [***@***.***]
    Sent: 27 March 2017 21:35
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); ‘***@***.***-itservices.com’; ***@***.***; Francoise Genova; Kay Raseroka; Sandra Collins; ‘jbminster’; Berman; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: FW: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL
    Dear all,
    I got a delivery failure for the group email, so I am resending with all your email addresses – please see below and attached final / near-final strategy drafts.
    Thanks! Sandra.
    From: Sandra Collins
    Sent: 25 March 2017 14:26
    Dear all,
    Mark has asked for our papers to be submitted by 31st March, for circulation to Council members, and to notify him if any papers will require more than 5 minutes on the Council agenda.
    Juan thanks very much for updating your paper. I like the format very much. I made two minor edits in the attached version, and there are two remaining questions:
    Francoise, do you know which group is looking at ISO standardisation?
    Hilary, is there any update on the MSP ICT standardisation?
    Otherwise I think this paper is ready to be submitted to Council before 31st March.
    Juan could you follow up these final questions (and also update the file name to Recommendations?).
    All, I made the final minor edits on the Infrastructure paper: I changed the order of the authors and asked Council to adopt. This is attached, and if no-one objects, we will submit to Council before 31st March.
    Francoise, would you be able to complete the Education paper before 31st March do you think? If not, we can progress it for the next Council meeting.
    Thanks all and see you in Barcelona! Sandra.
    From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
    Sent: 17 March 2017 16:54
    To: ***@***.***; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategists,
    Attached is a draft paper for Council on Standardisation for your consideration and comment.
    I’m not sure how much time Council will have to consider it. The agenda is really tight and this paper is just one part of our report which itself is just one of the Subcommittee reports.
    So I have kept the main paper down to one page and put the download of the web post and comments as an annex.
    I’ve not mentioned the BSI PAS matter, again in order to keep things simple.
    Comments welcome.
    Juan.
    – Show quoted text -From: parsom3=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parsons
    Sent: 10 March 2017 20:39
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    This is interesting, Juan. I was talking to the facilitator for the meeting later this month on defining our value proposition for industry. He asked if RDA would be willing to develop targeted WGs to address a particular industry need. I said it is conceivable, especially if they pay for it. This would be then similar to the PAS process, I reckon.
    cheers,
    -m.
    On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:12, JuanBicarregui wrote:
    Sending again in plain text as I got a strange bounce first time…
    From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Sent: 10 March 2017 17:04
    To: Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategy Committee,
    I just received the invitation below to a meeting organised by BSI who are considering developing a suite of standards on “Big Data”.
    Of course, BSI is just one of many national standards bodies and RDA should probably not favour any one of these over any other. But the actual standards are relevant and perhaps even more interesting is what they say about routes to ISO stnds:
    “PAS/BS/EN/ISO: PAS/BS initially given the complexity of the topic. With the aim of the document then becoming the basis of an ISO.”
    PAS and EN are described here:
    https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/our-services/developing-new-standards/Dev
    https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/DefEN/Pages/default.aspx
    We should think about these sorts of routes.
    I’ll let you know what I learn on at the meeting on 27 April.
    Juan.
    From: Tim McGarr [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 10 March 2017 11:14
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Subject: Big Data workshop to build standards committee – 27th April in Chiswick, London
    Juan,
    You have received this because of your involvement around workshops I ran last year on Big Data standards. The output of this was a set of 5 validated scopes for standards (see attached)
    At the time the outcome from the group was that the PAS route was most relevant and that the PASs should be developed in order of priority. To date we have not had a sponsor come forward, so I would like to propose an alternative route. Instead we would develop a new committee (with a name like Management of Big Data- MBD/1) and develop these as British Standards in parallel. In addition to this I want to discuss an idea on “Self Regulation on the use of Personal data in Commerce” (the attached CDC document provides further background).
    This initial Big Data stakeholder meeting will take place from 10am-2pm on Thursday 27th April 2017 in our offices in Chiswick (389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL).
    For each of the ideas we will discuss topics including what has changed since the original discussion and who is interested in getting involved in developing each respective standard.
    Please reply back to me to confirm your attendance. When the new committee is formed we will need a new chairperson. If you are interested in this role please contact me.
    Please feel free to forward on this email.
    Thank you,
    Tim
    Tim McGarr MBA
    Market Development Manager (Digital)
    T: +44 20 8996 7221 | M: +44 7500 571923
    ***@***.***
    BSI Group, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK
    bsigroup.com | Twitter | LinkedIn
    BSI Standards Limited is a member of BSI Group and is registered in England under number 7864997 with its registered address at 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, United Kingdom
    Please consider the environment before printing this email
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Visit the BSI website at http://www.bsigroup.com
    This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright
    material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only.
    Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email
    by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the
    reply facility in your email software.
    The British Standards Institution is incorporated by Royal Charter.
    This email has been scanned for all known viruses.
    Attached files:
    Big_Data_Scopes_for_further_development_v4.1.pdf
    CDC_Draft.pdf

    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/council-strategy-subcommittee/post/fw-
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    T? an r?omhphost seo (agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis) pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda agus d?fh?adfadh go mbeadh eolas inti at? faoi phribhl?id dhl?thi?il. N? ceadmhach ?s?id an r?omhphoist seo d??inne ach don t? ar seoladh chuige ?. Mura duitse an r?omhphost seo n? an t? at? freagrach as ? a sheoladh, t? cosc ar ch?ipe?il agus ar sheachadadh an r?omhphoist seo agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis chuig ?inne n? ?s?id a bhaint as a bhfuil ann; n? ceart an r?omhphost seo n? aon iat?n a l?amh. D?fh?adfadh go mbeadh cosc ioml?n dl?thi?il ar sceitheadh n? comhfhreagras n? aon ?s?id eile gan chead ar a bhfuil sa r?omhphost seo agus d?fh?adfadh s? a bheith ina chion coiri?il. M? fuair t? an r?omhphost seo tr? earr?id, d?an teagmh?il le bainisteoir an ch?rais @6030219
    Mark,
    Here is version of the RDA as a Standardisation body paper for Council.
    (As discussed, we still haven’t found out which group is talking to ISO but will send that on if we do.)
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: Sandra Collins [***@***.***]
    Sent: 27 March 2017 21:35
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); ‘***@***.***-itservices.com’; ***@***.***; Francoise Genova; Kay Raseroka; Sandra Collins; ‘jbminster’; Berman; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: FW: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL
    Dear all,
    I got a delivery failure for the group email, so I am resending with all your email addresses – please see below and attached final / near-final strategy drafts.
    Thanks! Sandra.
    From: Sandra Collins
    Sent: 25 March 2017 14:26
    Dear all,
    Mark has asked for our papers to be submitted by 31st March, for circulation to Council members, and to notify him if any papers will require more than 5 minutes on the Council agenda.
    Juan thanks very much for updating your paper. I like the format very much. I made two minor edits in the attached version, and there are two remaining questions:
    Francoise, do you know which group is looking at ISO standardisation?
    Hilary, is there any update on the MSP ICT standardisation?
    Otherwise I think this paper is ready to be submitted to Council before 31st March.
    Juan could you follow up these final questions (and also update the file name to Recommendations?).
    All, I made the final minor edits on the Infrastructure paper: I changed the order of the authors and asked Council to adopt. This is attached, and if no-one objects, we will submit to Council before 31st March.
    Francoise, would you be able to complete the Education paper before 31st March do you think? If not, we can progress it for the next Council meeting.
    Thanks all and see you in Barcelona! Sandra.
    From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
    Sent: 17 March 2017 16:54
    To: ***@***.***; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategists,
    Attached is a draft paper for Council on Standardisation for your consideration and comment.
    I’m not sure how much time Council will have to consider it. The agenda is really tight and this paper is just one part of our report which itself is just one of the Subcommittee reports.
    So I have kept the main paper down to one page and put the download of the web post and comments as an annex.
    I’ve not mentioned the BSI PAS matter, again in order to keep things simple.
    Comments welcome.
    Juan.
    From: parsom3=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parsons
    Sent: 10 March 2017 20:39
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    This is interesting, Juan. I was talking to the facilitator for the meeting later this month on defining our value proposition for industry. He asked if RDA would be willing to develop targeted WGs to address a particular industry need. I said it is conceivable, especially if they pay for it. This would be then similar to the PAS process, I reckon.
    cheers,
    -m.
    On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:12, JuanBicarregui wrote:
    Sending again in plain text as I got a strange bounce first time…
    – Show quoted text -From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Sent: 10 March 2017 17:04
    To: Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategy Committee,
    I just received the invitation below to a meeting organised by BSI who are considering developing a suite of standards on “Big Data”.
    Of course, BSI is just one of many national standards bodies and RDA should probably not favour any one of these over any other. But the actual standards are relevant and perhaps even more interesting is what they say about routes to ISO stnds:
    “PAS/BS/EN/ISO: PAS/BS initially given the complexity of the topic. With the aim of the document then becoming the basis of an ISO.”
    PAS and EN are described here:
    https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/our-services/developing-new-standards/Dev
    https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/DefEN/Pages/default.aspx
    We should think about these sorts of routes.
    I’ll let you know what I learn on at the meeting on 27 April.
    Juan.
    From: Tim McGarr [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 10 March 2017 11:14
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Subject: Big Data workshop to build standards committee – 27th April in Chiswick, London
    Juan,
    You have received this because of your involvement around workshops I ran last year on Big Data standards. The output of this was a set of 5 validated scopes for standards (see attached)
    At the time the outcome from the group was that the PAS route was most relevant and that the PASs should be developed in order of priority. To date we have not had a sponsor come forward, so I would like to propose an alternative route. Instead we would develop a new committee (with a name like Management of Big Data- MBD/1) and develop these as British Standards in parallel. In addition to this I want to discuss an idea on “Self Regulation on the use of Personal data in Commerce” (the attached CDC document provides further background).
    This initial Big Data stakeholder meeting will take place from 10am-2pm on Thursday 27th April 2017 in our offices in Chiswick (389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL).
    For each of the ideas we will discuss topics including what has changed since the original discussion and who is interested in getting involved in developing each respective standard.
    Please reply back to me to confirm your attendance. When the new committee is formed we will need a new chairperson. If you are interested in this role please contact me.
    Please feel free to forward on this email.
    Thank you,
    Tim
    Tim McGarr MBA
    Market Development Manager (Digital)
    T: +44 20 8996 7221 | M: +44 7500 571923
    ***@***.***
    BSI Group, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK
    bsigroup.com | Twitter | LinkedIn
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    Attached files:
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    CDC_Draft.pdf

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    Mark,
    Here is version of the RDA as a Standardisation body paper for Council.
    (As discussed, we still haven’t found out which group is talking to ISO but will send that on if we do.)
    Juan.
    ________________________________
    From: Sandra Collins [***@***.***]
    Sent: 27 March 2017 21:35
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); ‘***@***.***-itservices.com’; ***@***.***; Francoise Genova; Kay Raseroka; Sandra Collins; ‘jbminster’; Berman; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: FW: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation- SUBMISSIONS FOR COUNCIL
    Dear all,
    I got a delivery failure for the group email, so I am resending with all your email addresses – please see below and attached final / near-final strategy drafts.
    Thanks! Sandra.
    From: Sandra Collins
    Sent: 25 March 2017 14:26
    Dear all,
    Mark has asked for our papers to be submitted by 31st March, for circulation to Council members, and to notify him if any papers will require more than 5 minutes on the Council agenda.
    Juan thanks very much for updating your paper. I like the format very much. I made two minor edits in the attached version, and there are two remaining questions:
    Francoise, do you know which group is looking at ISO standardisation?
    Hilary, is there any update on the MSP ICT standardisation?
    Otherwise I think this paper is ready to be submitted to Council before 31st March.
    Juan could you follow up these final questions (and also update the file name to Recommendations?).
    All, I made the final minor edits on the Infrastructure paper: I changed the order of the authors and asked Council to adopt. This is attached, and if no-one objects, we will submit to Council before 31st March.
    Francoise, would you be able to complete the Education paper before 31st March do you think? If not, we can progress it for the next Council meeting.
    Thanks all and see you in Barcelona! Sandra.
    From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
    Sent: 17 March 2017 16:54
    To: ***@***.***; ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategists,
    Attached is a draft paper for Council on Standardisation for your consideration and comment.
    I’m not sure how much time Council will have to consider it. The agenda is really tight and this paper is just one part of our report which itself is just one of the Subcommittee reports.
    So I have kept the main paper down to one page and put the download of the web post and comments as an annex.
    I’ve not mentioned the BSI PAS matter, again in order to keep things simple.
    Comments welcome.
    Juan.
    From: parsom3=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parsons
    Sent: 10 March 2017 20:39
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC); Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: Re: [council-strategy] RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    This is interesting, Juan. I was talking to the facilitator for the meeting later this month on defining our value proposition for industry. He asked if RDA would be willing to develop targeted WGs to address a particular industry need. I said it is conceivable, especially if they pay for it. This would be then similar to the PAS process, I reckon.
    cheers,
    -m.
    On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:12, JuanBicarregui wrote:
    Sending again in plain text as I got a strange bounce first time…
    From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Sent: 10 March 2017 17:04
    To: Council Strategy subcommittee
    Subject: RDA-Startegy – routes to standardisation
    Dear RDA Strategy Committee,
    I just received the invitation below to a meeting organised by BSI who are considering developing a suite of standards on “Big Data”.
    Of course, BSI is just one of many national standards bodies and RDA should probably not favour any one of these over any other. But the actual standards are relevant and perhaps even more interesting is what they say about routes to ISO stnds:
    “PAS/BS/EN/ISO: PAS/BS initially given the complexity of the topic. With the aim of the document then becoming the basis of an ISO.”
    PAS and EN are described here:
    https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/our-services/developing-new-standards/Dev
    https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/DefEN/Pages/default.aspx
    We should think about these sorts of routes.
    I’ll let you know what I learn on at the meeting on 27 April.
    Juan.
    – Show quoted text -From: Tim McGarr [mailto:***@***.***]
    Sent: 10 March 2017 11:14
    To: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
    Subject: Big Data workshop to build standards committee – 27th April in Chiswick, London
    Juan,
    You have received this because of your involvement around workshops I ran last year on Big Data standards. The output of this was a set of 5 validated scopes for standards (see attached)
    At the time the outcome from the group was that the PAS route was most relevant and that the PASs should be developed in order of priority. To date we have not had a sponsor come forward, so I would like to propose an alternative route. Instead we would develop a new committee (with a name like Management of Big Data- MBD/1) and develop these as British Standards in parallel. In addition to this I want to discuss an idea on “Self Regulation on the use of Personal data in Commerce” (the attached CDC document provides further background).
    This initial Big Data stakeholder meeting will take place from 10am-2pm on Thursday 27th April 2017 in our offices in Chiswick (389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL).
    For each of the ideas we will discuss topics including what has changed since the original discussion and who is interested in getting involved in developing each respective standard.
    Please reply back to me to confirm your attendance. When the new committee is formed we will need a new chairperson. If you are interested in this role please contact me.
    Please feel free to forward on this email.
    Thank you,
    Tim
    Tim McGarr MBA
    Market Development Manager (Digital)
    T: +44 20 8996 7221 | M: +44 7500 571923
    ***@***.***
    BSI Group, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK
    bsigroup.com | Twitter | LinkedIn
    BSI Standards Limited is a member of BSI Group and is registered in England under number 7864997 with its registered address at 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, United Kingdom
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    Attached files:
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    CDC_Draft.pdf

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    InitialThoughtsAndRecommendationsOnRDAasaStandardisationBodyMarch2017.docx

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