[Christoph Bruch]

Did I miss our conference?
I thought we start at 3 PM CET.
Christoph Bruch
Helmholtz Association
Helmholtz Open Science Coordination Office
http://os.helmholtz.de
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Von: christoph.bruch=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] Im Auftrag von bruch
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2016 15:02
An: ‘RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG’
Betreff: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] legal requirements concerning ownership of open science infrastructures
Dear All,
During our last conference call I promised to write a few sentences about what I have in mind when I talk about possible requirements of infrastructures in order to qualify as open science infrastructures.
The basic thinking behind this is, that I would like to see as much research publications and research data freely available – permanently.
Our principles focus on research data, not on the infrastructures which are holding them.
There is one “in-between”: database protection.
I would like to add a focus on requirements concerning the ownership / legal structure / corresponding legal guaranties that are to ensure long term availability of the content.
For illustration I add 2 links
https://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2015/04/23/is-figshare-open-it-is-not-jus…
https://vre.leidenuniv.nl/vre/lrd/Pages/information-sheet.aspx?item=56
The first is a blog post by Peter Murray-Rust on “Is figshare open?”
The second is an information sheet of University of Leiden on Figshare
Figshare is only an example. I do not mean to pick on this endeavour.
According to my understanding the take home messages / questions concerning figshare are:
Its ownership is somewhat blurry.
This could be considered to be not a big deal as all data in Figshare can be downloaded.
Is this a realistic perspective or are we stuck with an infrastructure like this once it reaches a certain size?
With what definitions of open science / open science infrastructures are endeavours like Figshare compatible?
Regards,
Christoph
Christoph Bruch
Helmholtz Association
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Von: asha=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] Im Auftrag von alaw
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Dezember 2016 14:18
An: RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG; Asha CODATA
Betreff: [rda-legalinterop-ig] RDA Legal Interoperability – CALL next Friday- 16 December (15.00 CET / 14.00 UTC / 9am Eastern)
Dear All,
Please find below gotomeeting details and a calendar invite to add the same to your local calendar tool.
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Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/882649949
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Discussion

[Jean Bernard Minster]

I too am confused. I have been waiting for the past 15 minutes! 🙁 Bernard

[Jean Bernard Minster]

Dear Christoph:
The link for the telecon finally opened about 15-20 min late. Gail and I were the only ones on the line, so we talked about all kinds of interesting topics, but did not make practical progress on the IG stuff!
We are both concerned that the holidays might cause a loss of momentum that might be difficult to overcome. Do you, Enrique and Bob have any ideas about protecting against that risk?
Best regards, and merry Christmas to all.
Bernard

[Jean Bernard Minster]

Thanks, Christoph: I could participate on the 6th, but after that I am unavailable on Fridays, until the end of March, because of teaching conflict.
Perhaps someone should create a doodle poll.
Best-Bernard

[Simon Hodson]

Dear all,
Apologies from myself and from Asha for the problem with this call. Asha was supposed to have initiated the call but had a problem with the diary entry and so missed it.
I’m sorry for the inconvenience and the loss of time.
I think it would be best to resume the calls in the new year. I will personally not be available on 6th or 13th, but there is no reason why the call could not resume on either of those dates.
Asha: please could you send round a doodle for participants’ availability at 14.00 UTC on 6, 13, 20 and 27 January.
With very best wishes,
Simon.
___________________________
Updated CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.165830
Legal Interoperability of Research Data: Principles and Implementation Guidelines
___________________________
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[Jean Bernard Minster]

I will be available un Jan 6, but will not be available on any Friday thereafter until March 24. Bernard

[Asha Law]

Dear All,
Please find below a doodle poll to mark your availability at 14.00 UTC on
6, 13, 20 and 27 January.
http://doodle.com/poll/9e58fz582k3gsr4p
Thanks,
Asha

[Jean Bernard Minster]

All: I am sorry, I have been trying to connect to the telecon, witout success. All I get is “waiting for Simon” Not sure what I am doing wrong.
Happy new Year to all.
Bernard=

[Jean Bernard Minster]

Merci Herbert! I willl be out for Fridays until late March now, unless I can find a time to connect for a short while every so often.
Best-
Bernard

[Herbert Gruttemeier]

Hi Bernard,
I didn’t try to connect. Because I hadn’t heard anything back after filling out the Doodle before Christmas. Sorry for you, because this was the last chance, for a long time, to have you on the call, as far as I understood.
Très bonne année (quand même)!
Herbert
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À : Simon Codata ; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc : Jean-Bernard Minster ; Christoph Bruch
Objet : Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
All: I am sorry, I have been trying to connect to the telecon, witout success. All I get is “waiting for Simon” Not sure what I am doing wrong.
Happy new Year to all.
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[Jean Bernard Minster]

Thanks, Bob. I can help with the darft if you need, Tue-Fri are hard for me, but Mon is OK. Cheers,
Bernard

[Simon Hodson]

Hi all,
Yes, as Bob noted there was not sufficient participation to confirm the call – I had also let the co-chairs know that I was still on leave.
The calls should resume later in the month – I’m happy to help reschedule the calls for Monday if that is more practical.
With very best wishes,
Simon.
___________________________
Updated CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.165830
Legal Interoperability of Research Data: Principles and Implementation Guidelines
___________________________
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[Richard Blunk]

Hi – What work/articles, etc – is the group aware of that deals with legal interoperability in a strictly commercial setting?
Thanks
Richard Blunk
Dallas Texas
________________________________
From: simon=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Simon Hodson
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 4:05 AM
To: Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi all,
Yes, as Bob noted there was not sufficient participation to confirm the call – I had also let the co-chairs know that I was still on leave.
The calls should resume later in the month – I’m happy to help reschedule the calls for Monday if that is more practical.
With very best wishes,
Simon.
___________________________
Updated CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.165830
CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: Updated Nov 2016
doi.org
The CODATA Prospectus provides a brief summary of strategy and achievement in 2015-2016: it lays out CODATA’s mission and strategy and provides information about the key activities and outputs that contribute to the realising of this strategy. The revised version for Nov 2016, contains some minor additions and updates. The document was prepared for the CODATA General Assembly held in Denver, Colorado on 11 September 2016.
Legal Interoperability of Research Data: Principles and Implementation Guidelines
___________________________
Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
CODATA (Committee on Data of the International Council for Science), 5 rue Auguste Vacquerie, 75016 Paris, FRANCE
On 6 Jan 2017, at 21:35, jbminster wrote:
Thanks, Bob. I can help with the darft if you need, Tue-Fri are hard for me, but Mon is OK. Cheers,
Bernard
On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:14, Bob Chen wrote:
Sorry for the lack of clarity on the telecon…there wasn’t sufficient availability to schedule it. I think we might need to see if a different date/time slot might work for the next few months. Will try to put together a doodle poll for this soon.
Also, we need to submit a session proposal for Barcelona by Tuesday. Look for a draft this weekend for quick feedback!
Cheers, Bob
PS Happy New Year!
*****
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(CIESIN), The Earth Institute, Columbia University
Manager, NASA Socioeconomic Data and Applications Center (SEDAC)
P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 9W, Palisades, NY 10964 USA
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, HerbGr wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:40:26 +0100
From: HerbGr
To: jbminster ,
RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Christoph Bruch ,
Simon Codata
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi Bernard,
I didn’t try to connect. Because I hadn’t heard anything back after filling out the Doodle before Christmas. Sorry for you, because this was the last chance, for a long time, to have you on the call, as far as I understood.
Très bonne année (quand même)!
Herbert
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Cc : Jean-Bernard Minster ; Christoph Bruch
Objet : Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
All: I am sorry, I have been trying to connect to the telecon, witout success. All I get is “waiting for Simon” Not sure what I am doing wrong.
Happy new Year to all.
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[Malcolm Wolski]

Is the Nagoya Protocol of interest? I also thought the below interesting.
American Farm Bureau Data & Privacy Principles,
American Farm Bureau Federation’s (AFBF) have developed principles around
data transparency now signed by 37 companies including Monsanto, John Deere
and Du Pont Pioneer.
PRIVACY AND SECURITY PRINCIPLES FOR FARM DATA May 5, 2015

[Richard Blunk]

Thanks a lot. I’ll wrong them down. r
________________________________
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Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:30 PM
To: ***@***.***
Cc: Simon Hodson; Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG; Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Is the Nagoya Protocol of interest? I also thought the below interesting.
American Farm Bureau Data & Privacy Principles,
American Farm Bureau Federation’s (AFBF) have developed principles around data transparency now signed by 37 companies including Monsanto, John Deere and Du Pont Pioneer.
PRIVACY AND SECURITY PRINCIPLES FOR FARM DATA May 5, 2015
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Richard Blunk wrote:
Hi – What work/articles, etc – is the group aware of that deals with legal interoperability in a strictly commercial setting?
Thanks
Richard Blunk
Dallas Texas
________________________________
From: simon=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Simon Hodson
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 4:05 AM
To: Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi all,
Yes, as Bob noted there was not sufficient participation to confirm the call – I had also let the co-chairs know that I was still on leave.
The calls should resume later in the month – I’m happy to help reschedule the calls for Monday if that is more practical.
With very best wishes,
Simon.
___________________________
Updated CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.165830
CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: Updated Nov 2016
doi.org
The CODATA Prospectus provides a brief summary of strategy and achievement in 2015-2016: it lays out CODATA’s mission and strategy and provides information about the key activities and outputs that contribute to the realising of this strategy. The revised version for Nov 2016, contains some minor additions and updates. The document was prepared for the CODATA General Assembly held in Denver, Colorado on 11 September 2016.
Legal Interoperability of Research Data: Principles and Implementation Guidelines
___________________________
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E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
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On 6 Jan 2017, at 21:35, jbminster wrote:
Thanks, Bob. I can help with the darft if you need, Tue-Fri are hard for me, but Mon is OK. Cheers,
Bernard
On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:14, Bob Chen wrote:
Sorry for the lack of clarity on the telecon…there wasn’t sufficient availability to schedule it. I think we might need to see if a different date/time slot might work for the next few months. Will try to put together a doodle poll for this soon.
Also, we need to submit a session proposal for Barcelona by Tuesday. Look for a draft this weekend for quick feedback!
Cheers, Bob
PS Happy New Year!
*****
Dr. Robert S. Chen
Director, Center for International Earth Science Information Network
(CIESIN), The Earth Institute, Columbia University
Manager, NASA Socioeconomic Data and Applications Center (SEDAC)
P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 9W, Palisades, NY 10964 USA
tel. +1 845-365-8952; fax +1 845-365-8922
e-mail: ***@***.***
CIESIN web site: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu
SEDAC web site: http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, HerbGr wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:40:26 +0100
From: HerbGr
To: jbminster ,
RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Christoph Bruch ,
Simon Codata
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi Bernard,
I didn’t try to connect. Because I hadn’t heard anything back after filling out the Doodle before Christmas. Sorry for you, because this was the last chance, for a long time, to have you on the call, as far as I understood.
Très bonne année (quand même)!
Herbert
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Envoyé : vendredi 6 janvier 2017 15:11
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Cc : Jean-Bernard Minster ; Christoph Bruch
Objet : Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
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Happy new Year to all.
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[Richard Blunk]

Sorry. Autocorrect is a bad thing when you’ve not had enough coffee
I will RUN them down.
Thanks again.
r
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:08 AM
To: Malcolm Wolski; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Simon Hodson; Jean-Bernard Minster; Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Thanks a lot. I’ll wrong them down. r
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From: Malcolm Wolski
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:30 PM
To: ***@***.***
Cc: Simon Hodson; Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG; Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Is the Nagoya Protocol of interest? I also thought the below interesting.
American Farm Bureau Data & Privacy Principles,
American Farm Bureau Federation’s (AFBF) have developed principles around data transparency now signed by 37 companies including Monsanto, John Deere and Du Pont Pioneer.
PRIVACY AND SECURITY PRINCIPLES FOR FARM DATA May 5, 2015
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Richard Blunk wrote:
Hi – What work/articles, etc – is the group aware of that deals with legal interoperability in a strictly commercial setting?
Thanks
Richard Blunk
Dallas Texas
________________________________
From: simon=***@***.***-groups.org on behalf of Simon Hodson
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 4:05 AM
To: Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Bob Chen; Herbert Gruttemeier; Christoph Bruch
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi all,
Yes, as Bob noted there was not sufficient participation to confirm the call – I had also let the co-chairs know that I was still on leave.
The calls should resume later in the month – I’m happy to help reschedule the calls for Monday if that is more practical.
With very best wishes,
Simon.
___________________________
Updated CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.165830
CODATA Prospectus: Strategy and Achievement, 2015-2016: Updated Nov 2016
doi.org
The CODATA Prospectus provides a brief summary of strategy and achievement in 2015-2016: it lays out CODATA’s mission and strategy and provides information about the key activities and outputs that contribute to the realising of this strategy. The revised version for Nov 2016, contains some minor additions and updates. The document was prepared for the CODATA General Assembly held in Denver, Colorado on 11 September 2016.
Legal Interoperability of Research Data: Principles and Implementation Guidelines
___________________________
Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
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On 6 Jan 2017, at 21:35, jbminster wrote:
Thanks, Bob. I can help with the darft if you need, Tue-Fri are hard for me, but Mon is OK. Cheers,
Bernard
On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:14, Bob Chen wrote:
Sorry for the lack of clarity on the telecon…there wasn’t sufficient availability to schedule it. I think we might need to see if a different date/time slot might work for the next few months. Will try to put together a doodle poll for this soon.
Also, we need to submit a session proposal for Barcelona by Tuesday. Look for a draft this weekend for quick feedback!
Cheers, Bob
PS Happy New Year!
*****
Dr. Robert S. Chen
Director, Center for International Earth Science Information Network
(CIESIN), The Earth Institute, Columbia University
Manager, NASA Socioeconomic Data and Applications Center (SEDAC)
P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 9W, Palisades, NY 10964 USA
tel. +1 845-365-8952; fax +1 845-365-8922
e-mail: ***@***.***
CIESIN web site: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu
SEDAC web site: http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, HerbGr wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:40:26 +0100
From: HerbGr
To: jbminster ,
RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc: Christoph Bruch ,
Simon Codata
Subject: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
Hi Bernard,
I didn’t try to connect. Because I hadn’t heard anything back after filling out the Doodle before Christmas. Sorry for you, because this was the last chance, for a long time, to have you on the call, as far as I understood.
Très bonne année (quand même)!
Herbert
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Envoyé : vendredi 6 janvier 2017 15:11
À : Simon Codata ; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
Cc : Jean-Bernard Minster ; Christoph Bruch
Objet : Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] anybody out there
All: I am sorry, I have been trying to connect to the telecon, witout success. All I get is “waiting for Simon” Not sure what I am doing wrong.
Happy new Year to all.
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