[Rolf Krahl]

Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe,
there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are
some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for
the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that
might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and
ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an
opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view
and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in
the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for
sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

Discussion

[Majid Ounsy]

Dear Rolf, Frank and all
It is definitely a good idea. It should be a good opportunity to disseminate PaN activities
and to get feedback from others regarding our future challenges for Data Policies
implementations all over our facilities
Regards,
Majid
—–Message d’origine—–
De : rolf.krahl=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] De la part de rolf.krahl
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 14:20
À : ***@***.***-groups.org
Objet : [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe, there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Brian Matthews]

Dear Rolf and all,
Thanks for picking this up – I had missed the call ! It seems to have been in one of the RDA newsletters and easy to miss…
Yes I think that this would be a good idea too. The work you mention Rolf is all relevant. I think also it would be timely
if we could ask PanOSC to be represented; there is encouragement for EOSC projects to work in RDA. Both PanOSC and
Expands have extensive work on FAIR data.
Would FAIR data within facilities be a good theme for a meeting?
It’s quite general and could cover a number of different topics.
Thanks
Brian
– Show quoted text -From: majid.ounsy=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of ounsy
Sent: 05 December 2018 13:37
To: rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf, Frank and all
It is definitely a good idea. It should be a good opportunity to disseminate PaN activities and to get
feedback from others regarding our future challenges for Data Policies implementations all over our facilities
Regards,
Majid
—–Message d’origine—–
De : rolf.krahl=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] De la part de rolf.krahl Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 14:20 À : ***@***.***-groups.org Objet : [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe, there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Brian Matthews]

Dear All,
A draft proposal for a joint session at RDA P13 in Philadelphia, PA is available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkM9wowwYj8fpqTieo_oqzDPRkKuvEkn6B0V…
In order to submit the proposal in advance of the 5 Jan 2019 deadline, it would be helpful to finalize changes to proposal as well as confirm participation by additional groups by 19 December 2018 with the aim to submit the proposal by 21 December 2018.
Best wishes,
Laura Bartolo
CHiMaD/Northwestern University
From: Vasily Bunakov – UKRI STFC
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 10:35 AM
To: “‘Trautt, Zachary T. (Fed)'” , John Henry Scott , “***@***.***-consulting.com” , “Plante, Raymond L.” , “***@***.***” , “***@***.***” , “***@***.***-berlin.de” , “***@***.***” , “***@***.***” , Nicola Marzari , Brian Matthews , Laura Bartolo , “***@***.***” , “***@***.***” , “***@***.***“
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Subject: RE: The 4th call of Semantic Assets for Materials Science Task Group
Dear all,
For those of you who could not attend the call today – also for those who could, here is a link to the minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15boErrpJw9qTctTvRQFS-Ll4CWpL87H1Xw84…
With kind regards,
Vasily Bunakov
STFC Scientific Computing
– Show quoted text -From: Trautt, Zachary T. (Fed) [mailto:***@***.***]
Sent: 27 November 2018 14:16
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Subject: The 5th call of Semantic Assets for Materials Science Task Group
When: 28 November 2018 10:00-11:00 (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).
Where:
Agenda:
1. Ray Plante – Summary of RDA Meeting in Botswana
2. Vasily Bunakov – Summary of EMMC Meeting in Germany
3. Zachary Trautt – Presentation of EMMC Schema implemented in XSD and CDCS
4. Discussion of next call and RDA Meeting in USA
To join the video meeting, click this link: https://meet.google.com/jdb-mkuj-zns
Otherwise, to join by phone, dial +1 361-384-6791 and enter this PIN: 696 282 612#

[Rolf Krahl]

Dear Brian and all,
Dear Brian and all,
Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2018, 11:30:35 CET schrieb brianmatthews:
>
> Just wondered if there have been any further thoughts on meeting in
> Philadelphia ? Would be happy to start to put together a proposal.
From my side, I don’t have any further thoughts to add. But I guess,
it’s more a matter of taking the decision now, whether we want to go
for a PaNSIG session or not. If we decide to do so, I’d say, there is
enough substance in my first mail to formulate a session proposal
from.
@Thomas: are you going to attend P13? Philadelphia should be a
convenient travel for you after all. We could work on the idea of the
common instrument portal then. This would also be of interest for the
PID-Instrument WG.
Yes, I also got notice about the idea for the joint session from one
material mailing list. It’s a quite interesting topic, so in
principle, I’m in favour. The only thing that I’m not sure about is
whether we still may have our own session if also participate in a
joint session with another group. Maybe you (the group chairs) should
check with TAB about this.
Best regards,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Thomas Proffen]

Sorry for the late contribution – I think as user facilities (in particular in the US) trying to implement data sharing, having a session on FAIR data is very timely. I am up for a call this week or Jan 3 onward.
Cheers
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
– Show quoted text -From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:31 AM
To: Brian Matthews – UKRI STFC ; ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf et. al.
Just wondered if there have been any further thoughts on meeting in Philadelphia ? Would be happy to start to put together a proposal.
I have also been approached by the Materials group about a joint session (attached) Happy to participate, but would anyone else like to take part ?
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: 05 December 2018 14:14
To: ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf and all,
Thanks for picking this up – I had missed the call ! It seems to have been in one of the RDA newsletters and easy to miss…
Yes I think that this would be a good idea too. The work you mention Rolf is all relevant. I think also it would be timely
if we could ask PanOSC to be represented; there is encouragement for EOSC projects to work in RDA. Both PanOSC and
Expands have extensive work on FAIR data.
Would FAIR data within facilities be a good theme for a meeting?
It’s quite general and could cover a number of different topics.
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: majid.ounsy=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of ounsy
Sent: 05 December 2018 13:37
To: rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf, Frank and all
It is definitely a good idea. It should be a good opportunity to disseminate PaN activities and to get feedback from others regarding our future challenges for Data Policies implementations all over our facilities
Regards,
Majid
—–Message d’origine—–
De : rolf.krahl=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] De la part de rolf.krahl Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 14:20 À : ***@***.***-groups.org Objet : [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe, there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122
Sorry for the late contribution – I think as user facilities (in particular in the US) trying to implement data sharing, having a session on FAIR data is very timely. I am up for a call this week or Jan 3 onward.
Cheers
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:31 AM
To: Brian Matthews – UKRI STFC ; ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf et. al.
Just wondered if there have been any further thoughts on meeting in Philadelphia ? Would be happy to start to put together a proposal.
I have also been approached by the Materials group about a joint session (attached) Happy to participate, but would anyone else like to take part ?
Thanks
Brian
– Show quoted text -From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: 05 December 2018 14:14
To: ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf and all,
Thanks for picking this up – I had missed the call ! It seems to have been in one of the RDA newsletters and easy to miss…
Yes I think that this would be a good idea too. The work you mention Rolf is all relevant. I think also it would be timely
if we could ask PanOSC to be represented; there is encouragement for EOSC projects to work in RDA. Both PanOSC and
Expands have extensive work on FAIR data.
Would FAIR data within facilities be a good theme for a meeting?
It’s quite general and could cover a number of different topics.
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: majid.ounsy=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of ounsy
Sent: 05 December 2018 13:37
To: rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf, Frank and all
It is definitely a good idea. It should be a good opportunity to disseminate PaN activities and to get feedback from others regarding our future challenges for Data Policies implementations all over our facilities
Regards,
Majid
—–Message d’origine—–
De : rolf.krahl=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] De la part de rolf.krahl Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 14:20 À : ***@***.***-groups.org Objet : [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe, there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122
Sorry for the late contribution – I think as user facilities (in particular in the US) trying to implement data sharing, having a session on FAIR data is very timely. I am up for a call this week or Jan 3 onward.
Cheers
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:31 AM
To: Brian Matthews – UKRI STFC ; ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf et. al.
Just wondered if there have been any further thoughts on meeting in Philadelphia ? Would be happy to start to put together a proposal.
I have also been approached by the Materials group about a joint session (attached) Happy to participate, but would anyone else like to take part ?
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: 05 December 2018 14:14
To: ounsy ; rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf and all,
Thanks for picking this up – I had missed the call ! It seems to have been in one of the RDA newsletters and easy to miss…
Yes I think that this would be a good idea too. The work you mention Rolf is all relevant. I think also it would be timely
if we could ask PanOSC to be represented; there is encouragement for EOSC projects to work in RDA. Both PanOSC and
Expands have extensive work on FAIR data.
Would FAIR data within facilities be a good theme for a meeting?
It’s quite general and could cover a number of different topics.
Thanks
Brian
– Show quoted text -From: majid.ounsy=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of ounsy
Sent: 05 December 2018 13:37
To: rolf.krahl ; ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear Rolf, Frank and all
It is definitely a good idea. It should be a good opportunity to disseminate PaN activities and to get feedback from others regarding our future challenges for Data Policies implementations all over our facilities
Regards,
Majid
—–Message d’origine—–
De : rolf.krahl=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] De la part de rolf.krahl Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 14:20 À : ***@***.***-groups.org Objet : [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Dear all,
I recently had a chat with Frank Schlünzen about PaNSIG: I believe, there is some room for new activities. On the one hand, there are some things going on in other RDA groups that might be of interest for the PaN community, namely:
* Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
This group seeks to explore a community-driven solution for globally
unique identification of active instruments in the sciences. At the
last plenary P12 the group presented a first draft of a meta data
schema. At P13 it will present a second draft version of the schema
and discuss options for the implementation.
At P11, Thomas Proffen formulated the idea to build something like a
common instrument portal across facilities on top of that
infrastructure. This portal should help users to find the most
suitable instrument for their experiment.
* Physical Samples and Collections in the Research Data Ecosystem IG
At P12, in a joint session with the PID IG, there was a discussion
on establishing persistent identifiers for samples. There already
is the International Geo Sample Number (IGSN) and the idea seem to
be to broaden the scope and to accommodate samples in the sciences
in general into this system. Since I did participate in this
session, People behind this idea (Kerstin Lehnert) seemed to be
quite keen to get the PaN community involved.
* PID IG, ORCID
In the same joint session, a representative of ORCID presented
“research resources”, a new section in people’s ORCID record, see
[1] for more info. These resources may amongst others include the
access to research facilities. I believe, the original initiative
to create this came from ORNL.
On the other hand, there are some activities in the PaN community that might be of interest in the broader RDA community, such as PaNOSC and ExPaNDS.
So the question is: Shall we go for a session @ P13? This could be an opportunity for both, discussing RDA activity from our point of view and our involvement in them, but also disseminating PaN activities in the RDA community. If yes, we would need to hurry up, the call for sessions is open, deadline is on 5 January 2019.
Best regards,
Rolf
[1]: https://orcid.org/blog/2018/11/02/research-resources-live
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Rolf Krahl]

Thomas,
This week is mostly done, I don’t think we will able to make a call
now. Jan 3 onward would be ok for me. But the submission deadline is
already Jan 5, so this leaves us only either Jan 3 or Jan 4. And we
should start the call having a draft session proposal already mostly
finished, because we would need to submit almost immediatly after the
call. (I might try to write something on Jan 2.)
What do you think, particularly the group chairs: Brian, Frank, and
Thomas? Thomas, would you schedule the call?
Best regards,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Thomas Proffen]

I can definitely schedule the call Jan 2 or 3 so we have some time before the deadline.
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: Rolf Krahl
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:27 AM
To: Brian Matthews ; Frank Schluenzen ; Proffen, Thomas E.
Cc: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Thomas,
This week is mostly done, I don’t think we will able to make a call
now. Jan 3 onward would be ok for me. But the submission deadline is
already Jan 5, so this leaves us only either Jan 3 or Jan 4. And we
should start the call having a draft session proposal already mostly
finished, because we would need to submit almost immediatly after the
call. (I might try to write something on Jan 2.)
What do you think, particularly the group chairs: Brian, Frank, and
Thomas? Thomas, would you schedule the call?
Best regards,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Brian Matthews]

Can make a call on 3 Jan for preference.
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: tproffen=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of tproffen
Sent: 19 December 2018 16:33
To: Rolf Krahl ; Matthews, Brian (STFC,RAL,SC) ; Frank Schluenzen ; Research data needs of the Photon and Neutron Science community IG
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
I can definitely schedule the call Jan 2 or 3 so we have some time before the deadline.
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: Rolf Krahl
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:27 AM
To: Brian Matthews ; Frank Schluenzen ; Proffen, Thomas E.
Cc: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Thomas,
This week is mostly done, I don’t think we will able to make a call now. Jan 3 onward would be ok for me. But the submission deadline is already Jan 5, so this leaves us only either Jan 3 or Jan 4. And we should start the call having a draft session proposal already mostly finished, because we would need to submit almost immediatly after the call. (I might try to write something on Jan 2.)
What do you think, particularly the group chairs: Brian, Frank, and Thomas? Thomas, would you schedule the call?
Best regards,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Thomas Proffen]

I am pretty open on January 3rd. How about 3 or 4pm your (as in German) time?
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: brian.matthews=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of brianmatthews
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:01 AM
To: Proffen, Thomas E. ; Rolf Krahl ; Frank Schluenzen ; Research data needs of the Photon and Neutron Science community IG
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Can make a call on 3 Jan for preference.
Thanks
Brian
—–Original Message—–
From: tproffen=***@***.***-groups.org On Behalf Of tproffen
Sent: 19 December 2018 16:33
To: Rolf Krahl ; Matthews, Brian (STFC,RAL,SC) ; Frank Schluenzen ; Research data needs of the Photon and Neutron Science community IG
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
I can definitely schedule the call Jan 2 or 3 so we have some time before the deadline.
Thomas
Thomas Proffen / Director Science Initiative for High Performance Computing, Modeling, and Data Analytics and Powder Diffraction Team Lead / Neutron Scattering Division / Neutron Sciences Directorate / Oak Ridge National Laboratory / PO Box 2008, Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6473 /  Tel: +1-865-576-8633
—–Original Message—–
From: Rolf Krahl
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:27 AM
To: Brian Matthews ; Frank Schluenzen ; Proffen, Thomas E.
Cc: ***@***.***-groups.org
Subject: Re: [rda-rdnpnsc-ig] PaNSIG @ RDA plenary 13 in Philadelphia, US?
Thomas,
This week is mostly done, I don’t think we will able to make a call now. Jan 3 onward would be ok for me. But the submission deadline is already Jan 5, so this leaves us only either Jan 3 or Jan 4. And we should start the call having a draft session proposal already mostly finished, because we would need to submit almost immediatly after the call. (I might try to write something on Jan 2.)
What do you think, particularly the group chairs: Brian, Frank, and Thomas? Thomas, would you schedule the call?
Best regards,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB) Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

[Rolf Krahl]

Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018, 18:16:03 CET schrieb Proffen, Thomas E.:
> I am pretty open on January 3rd. How about 3 or 4pm your (as in German) time?
Would be fine for me.
Best,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122
Would be fine for me.
Best,
Rolf
—
Rolf Krahl
Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB)
Albert-Einstein-Str. 15, 12489 Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 8062 12122

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