Skip to main content

Notice

The new RDA web platform is still being rolled out. Existing RDA members PLEASE REACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT using this link: https://rda-login.wicketcloud.com/users/confirmation. Please report bugs, broken links and provide your feedback using the UserSnap tool on the bottom right corner of each page. Stay updated about the web site milestones at https://www.rd-alliance.org/rda-web-platform-upcoming-features-and-functionalities/.

RDA Regional Engagement Call – 30 Aug at 11 UTC

  • Creator
    Discussion
  • #110869

    Hilary Hanahoe
    Participant

    Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting
    details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the
    feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the next
    steps for the framework and agreements.
    The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    Kind regards
    Hilary
    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are
    intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not
    the intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender
    immediately
    and irrevocably delete or destroy this message and any copies.

    Regional_Engagement_Task_Force_questions_for_Council_responses20180807.docx

    Homepage

  • Author
    Replies
  • #130969

    Raphael Ritz
    Member

    Hello again,
    as a follow-up to todays meeting here an example for a financial
    contribution
    scheme that’s in place at the International Neuroinformatics Coordinating
    Facility (disclaimer: I’ve been working for this organization prior to
    joining Max Planck).
    It is based on GERD but defines an explicit mapping of GERD ranges to
    contribution amounts.
    Just so we know some more options …
    Cheers,
        Raphael
    Quote from https://space.incf.org/index.php/s/NwzeU74IGl3sfWi#pdfviewer
    (page 3)
    Basic Voluntary Financial Contributions according to the payment table
    are based on Gross
    Domestic Expenditure on Research and Development (GERD). This table and
    associated voluntary contribution amounts
    for participation are to be reviewed each year by the Governing Board
    and may be updated using appropriate figures
    from consistent reliable global sources.
    Annual payment table (United States Dollars)
    GERD
    > $80,000 million
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000
    On 27.08.18 09:57, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    > Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    >
    > We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting
    > details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the
    > feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the
    > next steps for the framework and agreements.
    >
    > The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    > I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    > Kind regards
    > Hilary
    >
    > https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    >
    > Call-in Phone numbers:
    > Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    > Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Hello again,
    as a follow-up to todays meeting here an example for a financial
    contribution
    scheme that’s in place at the International Neuroinformatics Coordinating
    Facility (disclaimer: I’ve been working for this organization prior to
    joining Max Planck).
    It is based on GERD but defines an explicit mapping of GERD ranges to
    contribution amounts.
    Just so we know some more options …
    Cheers,
        Raphael
    Quote from https://space.incf.org/index.php/s/NwzeU74IGl3sfWi#pdfviewer
    (page 3)
    Basic Voluntary Financial Contributions according to the payment table
    are based on Gross
    Domestic Expenditure on Research and Development (GERD). This table and
    associated voluntary contribution amounts
    for participation are to be reviewed each year by the Governing Board
    and may be updated using appropriate figures
    from consistent reliable global sources.
    Annual payment table (United States Dollars)
    GERD
    Contribution
    > $80,000 million
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000

  • #130955

    Raphael,
    Thanks for this – clear one key thing is to choose and indicator to base it on, GERD, GDP, etc.
    Then we need a function that maps to the contribution.
    Personally I would suggest a smooth curve rather than a stepped one. To avoid the having any contributors on a boundary, and also to provide a way to annually adjust the contribution in line with the indicator. Eg if GDP rises so does the contribution.
    There are different ways we can define the curve. If we pick a few examples of what we would expect from economies of a certain sizes we can make a curve.
    Below are a few curves I quickly made in excel from the data you gave in your example.
    Best regards,
    Juan.
    [cid:***@***.***]
    [cid:***@***.***]
    From: raphael.ritz=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of raphael
    Sent: 30 August 2018 13:18
    To: ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] RDA Regional Engagement Call – 30 Aug at 11 UTC
    Hello again,
    as a follow-up to todays meeting here an example for a financial contribution
    scheme that’s in place at the International Neuroinformatics Coordinating
    Facility (disclaimer: I’ve been working for this organization prior to joining Max Planck).
    It is based on GERD but defines an explicit mapping of GERD ranges to contribution amounts.
    Just so we know some more options …
    Cheers,
    Raphael
    Quote from https://space.incf.org/index.php/s/NwzeU74IGl3sfWi#pdfviewer (page 3)
    Basic Voluntary Financial Contributions according to the payment table are based on Gross
    Domestic Expenditure on Research and Development (GERD). This table and associated voluntary contribution amounts
    for participation are to be reviewed each year by the Governing Board and may be updated using appropriate figures
    from consistent reliable global sources.
    Annual payment table (United States Dollars)
    GERD
    > $80,000 million
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000
    On 27.08.18 09:57, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the next steps for the framework and agreements.
    The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    Kind regards
    Hilary
    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000
    On 27.08.18 09:57, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the next steps for the framework and agreements.
    The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    Kind regards
    Hilary
    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately
    and irrevocably delete or destroy this message and any copies.
    Attached files:
    Regional_Engagement_Task_Force_questions_for_Council_responses20180807.docx

    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/rda-regional-engagement-discussion-gro
    Manage my subscriptions: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist
    Stop emails for this post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist/unsubscribe/60570

    Homepage

  • #130954

    RDA Admin
    Organizer

    Thanks Juan and Raphael,
    I like Juan’s suggestions,, and would support the use of GDP, as it is a readily accessible number, while GERD may be harder to come by for some. In my experience the smooth curve option will solve the common problems with formulas of this type, especially the requests to move down to the next step!
    The only other question would be the numbers for the curve, which I believe Hilary can help with once she has the target for funding.
    Mark
    Mark Leggott, Executive Director / Directeur exécutif
    Research Data Canada / Données de recherche Canada
    45 O’Connor Street, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON K1P 1A4 Canada
    w – rdc-drc.ca t – 613.220.7236 f – 613.943.5443 e – ***@***.***-drc.ca
    Skype – markleggott Zoom – 391-053-1054/***@***.***-drc.ca
    Twitter – @mleggott/#rdcdrc LinkedIn – ca.linkedin.com/in/markleggott
    Book a Meeting with Me – https://rdc-drc.doodle.com/markleggott
    On Sep 3, 2018, 10:27 -0300, JuanBicarregui , wrote:
    Raphael,
    Thanks for this – clear one key thing is to choose and indicator to base it on, GERD, GDP, etc.
    Then we need a function that maps to the contribution.
    Personally I would suggest a smooth curve rather than a stepped one. To avoid the having any contributors on a boundary, and also to provide a way to annually adjust the contribution in line with the indicator. Eg if GDP rises so does the contribution.
    There are different ways we can define the curve. If we pick a few examples of what we would expect from economies of a certain sizes we can make a curve.
    Below are a few curves I quickly made in excel from the data you gave in your example.
    Best regards,
    Juan.
    [cid:7FF78378753A4A9D8CAE3E8919B2D8D7]
    [cid:272439D09EF14102AD2DC2A445827EF8]
    From: raphael.ritz=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of raphael
    Sent: 30 August 2018 13:18
    To: ***@***.***-groups.org
    Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] RDA Regional Engagement Call – 30 Aug at 11 UTC
    Hello again,
    as a follow-up to todays meeting here an example for a financial contribution
    scheme that’s in place at the International Neuroinformatics Coordinating
    Facility (disclaimer: I’ve been working for this organization prior to joining Max Planck).
    It is based on GERD but defines an explicit mapping of GERD ranges to contribution amounts.
    Just so we know some more options …
    Cheers,
    Raphael
    Quote from https://space.incf.org/index.php/s/NwzeU74IGl3sfWi#pdfviewer (page 3)
    Basic Voluntary Financial Contributions according to the payment table are based on Gross
    Domestic Expenditure on Research and Development (GERD). This table and associated voluntary contribution amounts
    for participation are to be reviewed each year by the Governing Board and may be updated using appropriate figures
    from consistent reliable global sources.
    Annual payment table (United States Dollars)
    GERD
    > $80,000 million
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000
    On 27.08.18 09:57, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the next steps for the framework and agreements.
    The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    Kind regards
    Hilary
    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately
    $ 350,000
    $30,000 – 80,000 million
    $ 250,000
    $20,000 – 30,000 million
    $ 200,000
    $ 7,000 – 20,000 million
    $ 120,000
    $ 2,500 – 7,000 million
    $40,000
    < $2,500 million
    $10,000
    On 27.08.18 09:57, Hilary Hanahoe wrote:
    Dear Regional Engagement task force members,
    We will be having a call this Thursday 30 Aug at 11 UTC (go to meeting details are below). The main purpose of this call is to discuss the feedback from the Council meeting in June (document attached), the next steps for the framework and agreements.
    The access details, for those of you able to join are below.
    I look forward to speaking with you on Thursday
    Kind regards
    Hilary
    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/889463285
    Call-in Phone numbers:
    Australia: +61 2 9087 3604
    Austria: +43 7 2081 5427
    Belgium: +32 28 93 7018
    Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391
    Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82
    Finland: +358 923 17 0568
    France: +33 170 950 594
    Germany: +49 692 5736 7317
    Ireland: +353 15 360 728
    Italy: +39 0 247 92 13 01
    Netherlands: +31 207 941 377
    New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302
    Norway: +47 21 93 37 51
    Spain: +34 932 75 2004
    Sweden: +46 853 527 836
    Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78
    United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028
    United States: +1 646-749-3129
    _____________________________________
    Hilary Hanahoe
    Secretary General Research Data Alliance
    Tel: +39-345-4719284
    ***@***.***
    skype: lunastella72
    Twitter: @hilaryhanahoe
    http://www.rd-alliance.org
    _____________________________________
    The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the attention
    and use of the named addressee and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient,
    you are reminded that the information remains the property of the sender.
    You must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail.
    If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately
    and irrevocably delete or destroy this message and any copies.
    Attached files:
    Regional_Engagement_Task_Force_questions_for_Council_responses20180807.docx

    Full post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/rda-regional-engagement-discussion-gro
    Manage my subscriptions: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist
    Stop emails for this post: https://www.rd-alliance.org/mailinglist/unsubscribe/60570

    Homepage

Log in to reply.