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Our next weekly call this Thursday, Apr 30 at 11am UTC

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  • #104587

    Iryna Kuchma
    Member

    Dear colleagues,
    We would like to invite you to our next weekly call this Thursday, 30th of
    April, at 11am UTC at https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86058692856.
    Draft agenda:
    – Define our process for responding to suggested edits and comments to
    our current drafts
    – Ensuring stakeholder input – how can we verify the recommendations are
    useful for researchers?
    – Developing Key Recommendations around Ethics and Equity: Vulnerable
    Populations; Stigma; Tracking; Indigenous Populations – and from Priyanka’s
    question on Slack – has the sub-group considered how data collected from
    vulnerable populations result in a more equitable response to the pandemic?
    – How should we grow (and curate) the resource list?
    – What do we want to release this week?
    – What do we want to discuss on Tuesday at the webinar – highlight a
    couple of points from our recommendations/guidelines?
    – Use cases with projects and for projects? Actionable recommendations
    and guidelines
    – Recommendation/How to: As a legal basis for processing personal data,
    we suggest…
    – DMP two-page factsheet?
    And our rolling minutes:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o8mgdjM8kpZ0BxudGdAaPSxrqXxH94YV4EHZ….
    Thank you,
    Best wishes,
    Amy, Ingrid and Iryna

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  • #129955

    Dear Iryna and Amy, dear all
    My two cents worth to your list, trying to optimize the meeting on Thursday:
    a) DMP fact sheet is good low-hanging fruit, but not very useful.
    It can be essentially based on the excellent recommendations of Science Europe
    https://www.scienceeurope.org/our-resources/practical-guide-to-the-inter
    The only interesting “fact”: the main difference between DMP guidance in most US
    institutions and the European templates (by looking at corresponding dmptool
    platforms) is that the European model has questions about data management during a
    project, whereas in the US they are mostly interested in the “after”.
    b) I noticed that the Clinical subgroup this morning in their decision tree
    indicated “demographic” data is needed. The Epidemiology subgroup is investigating
    which data/information need to be collected as part of epidemiology studies
    –> obviously, both need social sciences data (and I dont think demographic data is
    enough). How to leverage social sciences data (and which data to leverage) so that
    researchers in these groups can take advantage of it? And, vice versa, how would
    social sciences research profit from clinical and epidemiological data?
    In this sense, good case studies would be great, in particular if they showed this
    mutual leveraging.
    c) legal basis for processing personal data will depend on local legislations – and
    in Europe their local implementations of GDPR, which vary from country to country.
    Barring recommending awareness of GDPR, is there anything else that can be done? Or
    pointing out the existence of GDPR to non-european researchers?
    Claudia

  • #129951

    Iryna Kuchma
    Member

    Thanks a lot Claudia, this is very helpful! Amy asked earlier today how do
    we balance using our time to make our recommendations more targeted on
    COVID versus delving deeper into certain sub-areas (sub-areas seem to have
    least priority).
    I agree with your comments, about DMP and I was going to suggest to drop it
    for now. But then Kheeran emailed us the following comments:
    – 8.2.1: I agree with the need for DMP, but I’m not sure if it is always
    practical for everyone to do all the time. We want to lower the barriers
    for people doing this work, not increase it. So I wonder if it would be
    useful to provide a basic DMP template with relevant COVID-19 related
    metadata already populated that someone could simply pickup and use if they
    don’t have one handy already?
    – 8.2.1.3 requests researchers to register their DMP. We should provide
    guidance on our recommendations on where they could register it at.
    – 8.2.2.3 asks researchers to be mindful of commonly accepted codes and
    norms. Could we list these professional codes and norms out or point them
    to where they could find them?
    And I fully agree that these are great questions: How to leverage social
    sciences data (and which data to leverage) so that researchers in these
    groups can take advantage of it? And, vice versa, how would social sciences
    research profit from clinical and epidemiological data? We could have a
    call for use cases (I am not sure there are good case studies already). And
    perhaps this is also something we could flag at the next webinar on
    Tuesday.
    Also adding your comment about the legal basis for processing personal data
    to the minutes.
    Thanks again!
    Best wishes,
    Iryna
    On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 17:41, Claudia Bauzer Medeiros
    wrote:

  • #129948

    Hi Iryna, and thanks to Kheeran
    DMPs do not need to be very complex, but I firmly believe in their importance as
    part of good practices in designing a project. Anyone should plan what to do with
    their data, and how to manage them, as a very important part of any research (COVID
    or not). And statistics show that people will think about that only after the
    project is over.
    Writing a DMP will increase the work, but save work in the medium and long run (if
    you do something quick and dirty, you are fated to redo it over and over). Perhaps
    he is thinking about formal templates that often have up to 40 questions, and may
    take up to 1 day to write.
    NIH has a very good example of a 10-line DMP on clinical data which is used as an
    example in their site.
    I cannot see how we can provide a template, unless it is very generic. And for this
    we have zillions of examples in dmptool.
    I believe that what he calls a template with “previously filled metadata” is
    something similar to actionable DMPs which not only follow your project along its
    course, but auto-fill lots of fields based on how the project develops.
    8.2.1.3 – We can suggest that people can register plans at dmptool or similar
    and I have no idea about where to look for these norms and codes…

  • #129947

    Iryna Kuchma
    Member

    Thanks Claudia, I agree with you about DMPs. I was also thinking that we
    could have something short, re-using DMP templates for PhD students, e.g.
    this one:
    https://library.bath.ac.uk/research-data/data-management-plans/universit…,
    see below:
    Gathering data
    Description of the data
    – Types of data
    – Format and scale of the data
    – Data collection methods
    – Development of original software (if relevant)
    Working with data
    – Short- and medium-term data storage arrangements
    – Control of access to data and sharing with collaborators
    – File organisation and version control
    – Documentation that will accompany the data
    Archiving data
    – Selection of data to be retained and deleted at the end of the project
    – Data preservation strategy and retention period
    Sharing data
    – Justification for any restrictions on data sharing
    – Arrangements for data sharing
    Implementation
    – Review of the Data Management Plan
    – Special resources required for the project
    – Further training needs
    Best wishes,
    Iryna
    On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 23:49, Claudia Bauzer Medeiros
    wrote:

  • #129945

    Simon Parker
    Member

    Hello both,
    The UK Data Service also provides a great deal of practical information in the ‘Manage Data’ section of their website.
    https://www.ukdataservice.ac.uk/manage-data.aspx
    Kind regards,
    Simon
    From: ***@***.***-groups.org
    Sent: 29 April 2020 08:28
    To: Claudia Bauzer Medeiros ; RDA-COVID19-Social-Sciences
    Subject: Re: [rda-covid19-socialsciences] Our next weekly call this Thursday, Apr 30 at 11am UTC
    Thanks Claudia, I agree with you about DMPs. I was also thinking that we could have something short, re-using DMP templates for PhD students, e.g. this one: https://library.bath.ac.uk/research-data/data-management-plans/universit…, see below:
    Gathering data
    Description of the data
    * Types of data
    * Format and scale of the data
    * Data collection methods
    * Development of original software (if relevant)
    Working with data
    * Short- and medium-term data storage arrangements
    * Control of access to data and sharing with collaborators
    * File organisation and version control
    * Documentation that will accompany the data
    Archiving data
    * Selection of data to be retained and deleted at the end of the project
    * Data preservation strategy and retention period
    Sharing data
    * Justification for any restrictions on data sharing
    * Arrangements for data sharing
    Implementation
    * Review of the Data Management Plan
    * Special resources required for the project
    * Further training needs
    Best wishes,
    Iryna
    On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 23:49, Claudia Bauzer Medeiros wrote:
    Hi Iryna, and thanks to Kheeran
    DMPs do not need to be very complex, but I firmly believe in their importance as
    part of good practices in designing a project. Anyone should plan what to do with
    their data, and how to manage them, as a very important part of any research (COVID
    or not). And statistics show that people will think about that only after the
    project is over.
    Writing a DMP will increase the work, but save work in the medium and long run (if
    you do something quick and dirty, you are fated to redo it over and over). Perhaps
    he is thinking about formal templates that often have up to 40 questions, and may
    take up to 1 day to write.
    NIH has a very good example of a 10-line DMP on clinical data which is used as an
    example in their site.
    I cannot see how we can provide a template, unless it is very generic. And for this
    we have zillions of examples in dmptool.
    I believe that what he calls a template with “previously filled metadata” is
    something similar to actionable DMPs which not only follow your project along its
    course, but auto-fill lots of fields based on how the project develops.
    8.2.1.3 – We can suggest that people can register plans at dmptool or similar
    and I have no idea about where to look for these norms and codes…

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