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Group Session January 24, 2025

Gen AI Killed the PID Star: the impact of AI on PIDs and PID Systems

Plenary: RDA 24th Plenary Meeting – Fully Virtual

Submitted by
Jonathan Clark
Recording

Meeting objectives

Collaborative session notes:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dH0RIWyDoIV-Ea-waRTA6ibPZ5hqYS-s/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104358842683409363823&rtpof=true&sd=true

Some people argue that Generative AI removes the need for Persistent Identifiers. Others maintain that PIDs are even more important in an AI world because there will many more things in the world and we will need persistent names for most of those things. Nowadays, our bots are perfectly capable of recognising a thing for what it is and giving it a code (face recognition for instance), so perhaps it’s not the PIDs that AI will kill, but the PID Systems? PID Systems maintain the connection between the invariant name and the thing. Can AI give a name to any thing? And if the same or similar thing is presented to AI, can it give it the same name? PID registries contain a lot of metadata about things – can AI deliver accurate descriptions and other information about a thing?

Can AI make creating metadata more efficient? Or will it do away with the need for such metadata altogether? This meeting of the PID Interest Group will address this debate and the many questions it raises. Speakers will highlight different ways in which (Gen)AI has impacted PID Systems and what we might expect in the future.

The plan is to follow up on this topic at P25 / IDW chaired by Adrian Burton

Meeting presenters

Jonathan Clark, Josh Brown, Larry Lannom, Giridhar Manepalli, Amir Aryani

Meeting agenda

  • Introduction to PID IG for newcomers (Jonathan Clark, Josh Brown) 5 minutes
  • Gen AI Killed the PID Star – a Postcard from the Future (Larry Lannom) 15 minutes
  • Identifiers in a Movie Production and AI’s Impact (Giridhar Manepalli) 15 minutes
  • The Role of AI in the Transformation of Scholarly Communication (Amir Aryani) 15 minutes
  • Open Discussion (All) 35 minutes
  • Close and Next Steps (Jonathan Clark, Josh Brown) 5 minutes

Target audience

The target audience covers a wide cross-section of the RDA community. Indeed, anyone who is engaged in producing, storing, management and preservation of data should care about PIDs. In practice, this meeting will appeal most to organisations that provide PID services to the international research community and organisations that implement or otherwise use PIDs  

Group Activities and Scope

The PID IG is the cross-pollination place for PID initiatives within and beyond RDA.

The pervasive use of persistent identifiers is seen as a foundational element in anchoring and referencing research data in an interoperable way. The purpose of the Persistent Identifier Interest Group is to synchronise identifier-related efforts, address important and emerging PID-related topics and coordinate activities, including appropriate RDA Working Groups, to support practical solutions for PID-related issues from the engaged communities.

 The PID IG fosters working groups to address specific topics, and in particular to address and define emerging PID use cases in the domain of data, and how the research community would benefit from a portfolio of global open identifiers for persons, data objects, organizations, grants, etc. Where applicable the PID-IG collaborates with existing RDA working groups, or it establishes new working groups based on priority areas as identified at RDA plenaries.

Short Group Status

The PID IG is well established as the place to come at RDA to learn about PID initiatives within and beyond RDA. Meetings are always very well attended.

Applicable Pathways

FAIR, CARE, TRUST - Evaluation and Policy
Data Infrastructures and Environments - Generalist
Data Lifecycles - Versioning, Provenance, Citation, and Reward

Avoid conflict with the following groups

Persistent Identification of Instruments WG
National PID Strategies Interest Group

Please indicate at least (3) three breakout slots that would suit your meeting.

Breakout 4. Tuesday, 8 April, 14:00-15:30 UTC
Breakout 7. Wednesday, 9 April, 14:00-15:30 UTC
Breakout 10. Thursday, 10 April, 14:00-15:30 UTC