SWORDv3 and introductions

20 Nov 2017

Hi Folks,
Just a quick message to introduce myself, as I've just joined the list this
morning. I'm Richard from Cottage Labs, and I'm working with Neil
Jefferies (Oxford) and Dom Fripp (Jisc) on a new version of the SWORD
protocol. There has been some discussion on our stakeholder list about
packaging formats, and the work of this group came up. I'm here to learn
from you, and to see what opportunities for re-using
ideas/semantics/formats there might be for SWORD. It would be great for us
to be able to attach our packaging support to the wider community, so
really interested in what you have been doing.
If you're interested in the progress of this 3rd version of SWORD since
Neil spoke at the last RDA event, we have our initial consultation
documents up on the website here: http://swordapp.org/swordv3/
Are there any materials for this group that I should read to get
up-to-speed?
All the best,
Richard
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  • Eoghan Ó Carragáin's picture

    Author: Eoghan Ó Carragáin

    Date: 22 Nov, 2017

    Hi Richard,
    I'd start with these documents if you haven't already come across them:
    -
    https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/research-data-repository-interoperabil...
    (case statement)
    -
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/13BBJ_G-eprhRadIwtDm-GY1duwP7SkrAf8aA...
    (Primer/use-cases)
    -
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VmmhNMl4ie5zqbCKkf3NDNRHtgdb2SgYF_cE...
    (proposed package format description)
    Sword adoption/alignment would be great for getting early adoption of the
    WG recommendations. The packaging document is still work in progress, so
    very useful to get SWORD input now.
    I'm not sure when the next WG virtual meeting is taking place (I've missed
    the last couple), but would be very useful to include SWORDv3 on the agenda
    if possible.
    Best,
    Eoghan

  • David Wilcox's picture

    Author: David Wilcox

    Date: 29 Nov, 2017

    Hi Richard,
    Just to follow up on Eoghan’s comments, our group is in the process of finalizing the recommendation document [1], and we’re hoping to have multiple prototype implementations of the packaging specification to verify that it is adequate for a variety of import/export scenarios. To that end, it would be great to add SWORD to the list of prototype implementations. Let me know if you’d like to discuss in more detail - we plan to present our work at the next RDA plenary in Berlin in March [2].
    Regards,
    David
    [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VmmhNMl4ie5zqbCKkf3NDNRHtgdb2SgYF_cE...
    [2] https://www.rd-alliance.org/plenaries/rda-eleventh-plenary-meeting-berli...
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  • Richard Jones's picture

    Author: Richard Jones

    Date: 30 Nov, 2017

    Hi Eoghan,
    That's great, thanks for the details.
    Does this WG have a feel on the timeline in which the format is likely to
    be stabilised/published?
    Cheers,
    Richard
    On 22 November 2017 at 17:34, Eoghan Ó Carragáin <
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  • Richard Jones's picture

    Author: Richard Jones

    Date: 30 Nov, 2017

    Hi David,
    Yes, I'd like to talk about what that might mean in detail. On the SWORDv3
    stakeholder list I've just asked around to see what people's thoughts are
    on whether we want to explicitly name this format in the spec as our
    "default" format, or whether it is just another option that people might
    optionally use.
    I'm not sure either situation would count as a useful "implementation" of
    this format, as it would just be named in the spec, but when we move on to
    the implementations phase of our project we might be able to see it
    actually used, which would be great. It would be good to know what you're
    envisaging, and how we can help, certainly.
    Cheers,
    Richard

  • Eoghan Ó Carragáin's picture

    Author: Eoghan Ó Carragáin

    Date: 30 Nov, 2017

    Hi Richard,
    David or Thomas would be better able to answer the timeline question, but
    my understanding is that the WG expects to make its final recommendation
    for the next RDA Plenary in March 2018. Work will be done in the meantime
    to trial implementations.
    Best,
    Eoghan

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