Outputs and IP

16 Dec 2013

Mark, et.al.,
Captured below are hints of a scenario between W3C and the WHATWG over
HTML, originally a W3C specification. I call your attention to the amount
of elapsed time between when the WHAYTWG was initiated and HTML5 was
submitted to W3C as a candidate specification. (2004-2011).
Years of angst and wasted effort were consumed as the organizations
wrestled with the problem.
W3C has revised it's copyright policy as a result of this experience:
"No right to create modifications or derivatives of W3C documents is
granted pursuant to this license. However, if additional requirements
(documented in the Copyright FAQ) are satisfied, the right to create
modifications or derivatives is sometimes granted by the W3C to
individuals complying with those requirements. "
The WHATWG was formed in response to the slow development of World Wide
Web Consortium (W3C) web standards and W3C's decision to abandon HTML in
favor of XML-based technologies. The WHATWG mailing list was announced on
4 June 2004,[4] two days after the initiatives of a joint Opera–Mozilla
position paper[5] had been voted down by the W3C members at the W3C
Workshop on Web Applications and Compound Documents.[6]
On 10 April 2007, the Mozilla Foundation, Apple, and Opera Software
proposed[7] that the new HTML working group of the W3C adopt the WHATWG’s
HTML5 as the starting point of its work and name its future deliverable as
"HTML5". On 9 May 2007, the new HTML working group resolved to do that.[8]
The WHATWG has been actively working on several documents.
HTML formerly known as HTML5[9] (formerly titled Web Applications 1.0) is
the fifth major version of the HTML specification and has been adopted by
the W3C as the starting point of the work of the new HTML working group.
On 19 January 2011, Ian Hickson announced that the standard would now be
called HTML instead of HTML5. The specification for HTML will be a living
document that will have continuous changes as necessary.[10]
Gerry Lane
Director, Open Source and Standards
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Cell: +1 914 714 8676
From: Mark Parsons
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Hilary Hanahoe <***@***.***-itservices.com>,
Date: 12/15/2013 05:34 PM
Subject: [rda-outputs-ip] GoToMeeting Invitation - Outputs and IP
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Hi all,
We have a telecon, tomorrow (Monday) at 15:00 UTC. See the agenda and
particulars below.
1. Update from Council on our draft policy. They would like to adopt
an interim policy that says that everything RDA produces (at least on the
web site) is generally available under a CC-BY license. Is that
2. Update on involving “legal experts”. Anna Eisenstadt has agreed to
join us as recommended by the Legal Interoperability IG. Invitations
pending to Prof.s Hilty and Drexl of MPI per Dietmar Harhoff and Raphael
1. What are our next steps in defining appropriate licenses?
3. Response to review comments. Issues:
1. clarify that we favor individual authors in citation.
2. clarify that we encourage open implementations but cannot formally
ensure them as Walter Stewart suggests.
3. clarify criteria to maintain RoD as per Reagan Moore’s comment.
4. improve process on how to respond to seriously critical review.
4. Next meeting/Next steps
5. AOB
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