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Looks good Juan,
I would be available this Friday, and the 26th, if you did want to chat beforehand. Just suggest a few times and I’ll see what fits.
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On Sep 18, 2018, 14:35 -0300, mcintold , wrote:
Hi Juan,
Thanks for drafting this. I would like to be part of the discussion but will be busy before the next call due to the RDA-US leadership meeting (among others). I also know Mark is out this week.
Could we have this as the main agenda item for the 27th?
Leslie McIntosh, PhD, MPH
Executive Director
Research Data Alliance – US
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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On Sep 18, 2018, at 05:40, JuanBicarregui wrote:
Resending as it seems the list could not handle the picture. The same graph is on the first sheet of the attachment.
From: Bicarregui, Juan (STFC,RAL,SC)
Sent: 18 September 2018 10:34
To: ‘JuanBicarregui’; ‘Parsons, Mark’; ‘***@***.***
Cc: Ingrid Dillo; Lupo-Petta, Jamie; Hilary Hanahoe; ***@***.***
Subject: RE: [regional_engagement] – Financial indicators
Jason and Mark, (and any others interested in looking at financial indicators.)
Shall we try and have a call before the next group meeting on the 27th?
The whole group meeting is at 11:00 UTC is that the best time?
At that time I’m free on Friday 21, Monday 24 or Wednesday 26.
I’m thinking that there are three types of function we could use for scaling the contribution:
1. A stepped flat distribution
2. A polyline linear distribution
3. A smoothed curve (using logs)
The chart below has examples of each:

Of course there are parameters can be varied to change the position of the lines!!
The attached spreadsheet allows this.
Personally I don’t like the stepped function although many organisations use this. It seems unfair to me: two contributors of quite different sizes can pay the same, and conversely, two quite similar contributors can pay very different amounts.
The polyline version solves this while still remaining simple mathematically. It is the sort of function used in income tax calculations (at least in the UK), but this version is regressive rather than progressive (ie the rate is lower for higher contributors). This can of course be changed.
The Smooth version is the most elegant mathematically, and probably the fairest. But I haven’t seen it used for this kind of thing before. It can be explained with words like “treble the GDP gives double the contribution” (or whatever parameters we choose).
On balance I think the polyline version is the best of these three. But there may be other possibilities. What do others think?
Then we just have to pick the parameters!!
Best regards,
(Let me know if we can/should have a meeting)
From: juan.bicarregui=***@***.*** [mailto:***@***.***] On Behalf Of JuanBicarregui
Sent: 14 September 2018 14:49
To: Hilary Hanahoe; ***@***.***
Cc: Ingrid Dillo; Lupo-Petta, Jamie
Subject: Re: [regional_engagement] 13 Sept Meeting Notes and updates
Thanks for the notes – sorry I couldn’t join you.
Yes, I’d be happy to run a small group on the financial indicator.
I’ve noted the next meeting in my diary. Is the intention to have meetings each week at this time?
Best wishes,
From: hilary.hanahoe=***@***.*** [mailto:***@***.***] On Behalf Of Hilary Hanahoe
Sent: 14 September 2018 14:17
To: ***@***.***
Cc: Ingrid Dillo; Lupo-Petta, Jamie
Subject: [regional_engagement] 13 Sept Meeting Notes and updates
Dear Regional Engagement Task Force,
I have created some short notes on yesterday’s call for your records and they are available at… which is located in the Google Folder.
Some updates / requests for you all:
1. Financial Indicators: Juan would you be willing to coordinate a mini group (Jason and Mark perhaps?) to come up with parameters based on GDP that we could use for the annual regional contribution? I merged all the data I have into the excel file in the folder, and from discussions on the last 2 calls, GDP appears to be the most reliable and recognised data source / reference. Please let me know if you could do this and Mark if you are willing to be involved? Jason already expressed willingness on the call yesterday.
2. Botswana Meeting: I have discussed with Ingrid (Council Co-chair & Council RE liaison) and we propose that the Botswana meeting be focused on presenting a pre-final version of the framework (which includes the governance and financial indicators) to a group of regional representatives so that they could provide feedback to this group for integration in the document and finalisation by the end of 2018.
3. Next Meeting: there will not be a meeting on Thursday 20th Sept, so please mark in your diaries the next call for 27th Sept at 11 UTC which Ingrid will chair (thank you Ingrid)
4. Timing: we should aim to finalise documents and frameworks for mid October in order to circulate the pre-final versions to meeting invitees at least 10 days in advance of the Botswana meeting. @Sarah @ Leslie @ Vivian Can you take forward coordinating the finalisation of the RDA Framework document?
Many thanks to you all for your support and contribution
Have a lovely weekend
Link to RE Google Folder
Hilary Hanahoe
Secretary General Research Data Alliance
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