Dear all,
This is just a gentle reminder of our 5th call tomorrow, Tuesday March 7th
for the RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test
collections.
You can find the connection details as well as links to the corresponding
documents below.
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
Document Links
Call Minutes:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017
Use Cases:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16uJX12h1qCcWo1_LsYZ5NXfZXWCeD4ld...
Earxx58/edit
(obsolete, please use the Google Sheet instead:
fJ60/edit?usp=sharing>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OHZeNjvlEyHJbMO9_MYJb_t57uF1ob8nFvA5...
J60/edit?usp=sharing)
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Meeting ID: 188 555 533
Author: Fotis Psomopoulos
Date: 07 Mar, 2017
Dear RDA Data Discovery IG members,
Please find attached the minutes of our call earlier today for the RDA Data
Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections (you
can find the same information on the task force wiki page as well:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017.
After the discussion we identified two actions until our next teleconference
(though ideally sometime next week), and aiming for the 9th RDA Plenary in
Barcelona;
Action #1: Create a first version of requirements in the use-cases
spreadsheet
XEarxx58/edit>
Action #2: Get extra use-cases from W3C SDW
Finally, our next teleconference will take place on Tuesday, March 21st
2017 (see local times and connection details below).
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
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Hi Fotis,
I added two use cases from the W3C SDW. so, action #2 complete.
cheers,
sjs
On 3/7/17 2:43 PM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos
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Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections
(you can find the same information on the task force wiki
page as well:
href="https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes-use-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017">https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes-use-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017
lang="EN-US">.
After the discussion we
identified two actions until our next teleconference (though
ideally sometime next week), and aiming for the 9th RDA
Plenary in Barcelona;
Action #1
lang="EN-US">:
lang="EN-US">Create a first version of requirements in the
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spreadsheet
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lang="EN-US">: Get extra use-cases from
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Finally, our next
teleconference will take place on Tuesday, March 21st
2017 (see local times and connection details below).
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens,
Ming and Fotis
Next
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Author: Ilya Zaslavsky
Date: 08 Mar, 2017
Dear All,
We had described a number of geoscience discovery use cases in the CINERGI project - see https://github.com/CINERGI/UseCases - these might be added to your compilation.
I'd also like to add some thoughts on the description of data-related roles in the last minutes, specifically on the
"Data aggregator/data repository/metadata catalogue:
is responsible for running a data discovery service for human & machine, such as
DataCite, DataOne, RDA (Research Data Australia), and data.gov etc. Generally, a
data aggregator isn't responsible for describing data (i.e. creating metadata), but
may communicate with data providers what attributes a metadata should have to
make it more discoverable."
Perhaps we can distinguish between two types of metadata aggregators: A) aggregators that prescribe a metadata access protocol and encoding standard that they can harvest. For example, CUAHSI HIS Central harvests metadata from HydroServers, which all "speak" WaterML/WaterOneFlow services. In this "pure metadata aggregation" case, no additional metadata is created, indeed. B) aggregators that harvest heterogeneous metadata, and "add value" by creating metadata to support additional modes of search. Creating metadata in this case may be inevitable - unless the aggregator only falls back to metadata fields that are common across the harvested repositories (the least common denominator approach). I consider CINERGI an aggregator of this second type because it includes a metadata augmentation pipeline that generates keywords with references to ontology classes, spatial extents, etc. to enable faceted browsing by characteristics not explicitly present in the harvested metadata (ie enables additional modes of search, and adds support for semantic interoperability). Obviously, there may be multiple value-add aggregators for the same data sources, to enable different additional search capabilities.
- ilya
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Subject: Re: [datadiscovery] RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Call tomorrow
Hi Fotis,
I added two use cases from the W3C SDW. so, action #2 complete.
cheers,
sjs
On 3/7/17 2:43 PM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos wrote:
Dear RDA Data Discovery IG members,
Please find attached the minutes of our call earlier today for the RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections (you can find the same information on the task force wiki page as well: https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes....
After the discussion we identified two actions until our next teleconference (though ideally sometime next week), and aiming for the 9th RDA Plenary in Barcelona;
Action #1: Create a first version of requirements in the use-cases spreadsheet
Action #2: Get extra use-cases from W3C SDW
Finally, our next teleconference will take place on Tuesday, March 21st 2017 (see local times and connection details below).
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
Next teleconference, Tuesday, March 21st 2017
When
* London (United Kingdom) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 12:00 noon GMTUTC
* Athens (Greece) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 2:00 pm EETUTC +2 hours
* New York (USA - New York) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 7:00 am ESTUTC -5 hours
* Perth (Australia - Western Australia) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 8:00 pm AWSTUTC +8 hours
* Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 11:00 pm AEDTUTC +11 hours
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http://cires.colorado.edu/~khalsa
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Author: Fotis Psomopoulos
Date: 08 Mar, 2017
Dear Ilya,
Thank you for the feedback; I've already had a quick look at the use cases
and I think they can be easily incorporated into our compilation.
Regarding the description of the Data Aggregator role, I think it would make
sense to keep the differentiation but probably on a different level; i.e.
keep the high level "general" roles as they are currently stated, and then
produce a hierarchy below them that can be used when this level of
granularity is necessary. In any case, we can definitely discuss this
further either on the mailing list or at our next call.
Regards,
Fotis
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Subject: RE: [datadiscovery] RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Call tomorrow
Dear All,
We had described a number of geoscience discovery use cases in the CINERGI
project - see https://github.com/CINERGI/UseCases - these might be added to
your compilation.
I'd also like to add some thoughts on the description of data-related roles
in the last minutes, specifically on the
"Data aggregator/data repository/metadata catalogue:
is responsible for running a data discovery service for human & machine,
such as
DataCite, DataOne, RDA (Research Data Australia), and data.gov etc.
Generally, a
data aggregator isn't responsible for describing data (i.e. creating
metadata), but
may communicate with data providers what attributes a metadata should have
to
make it more discoverable."
Perhaps we can distinguish between two types of metadata aggregators: A)
aggregators that prescribe a metadata access protocol and encoding standard
that they can harvest. For example, CUAHSI HIS Central harvests metadata
from HydroServers, which all "speak" WaterML/WaterOneFlow services. In this
"pure metadata aggregation" case, no additional metadata is created, indeed.
B) aggregators that harvest heterogeneous metadata, and "add value" by
creating metadata to support additional modes of search. Creating metadata
in this case may be inevitable - unless the aggregator only falls back to
metadata fields that are common across the harvested repositories (the least
common denominator approach). I consider CINERGI an aggregator of this
second type because it includes a metadata augmentation pipeline that
generates keywords with references to ontology classes, spatial extents,
etc. to enable faceted browsing by characteristics not explicitly present in
the harvested metadata (ie enables additional modes of search, and adds
support for semantic interoperability). Obviously, there may be multiple
value-add aggregators for the same data sources, to enable different
additional search capabilities.
- ilya
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Subject: Re: [datadiscovery] RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Call tomorrow
Hi Fotis,
I added two use cases from the W3C SDW. so, action #2 complete.
cheers,
sjs
On 3/7/17 2:43 PM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos wrote:
Dear RDA Data Discovery IG members,
Please find attached the minutes of our call earlier today for the RDA Data
Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections (you
can find the same information on the task force wiki page as well:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017.
After the discussion we identified two actions until our next teleconference
(though ideally sometime next week), and aiming for the 9th RDA Plenary in
Barcelona;
Action #1: Create a first version of requirements in the use-cases
spreadsheet
XEarxx58/edit>
Action #2: Get extra use-cases from W3C SDW
Finally, our next teleconference will take place on Tuesday, March 21st
2017 (see local times and connection details below).
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
Next teleconference, Tuesday, March 21st 2017
When
* London (United Kingdom) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 12:00 noon GMTUTC
* Athens (Greece) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 2:00 pm EETUTC +2 hours
* New York (USA - New York) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 7:00 am ESTUTC
-5 hours
* Perth (Australia - Western Australia) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 8:00
pm AWSTUTC +8 hours
* Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 11:00 pm
AEDTUTC +11 hours
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Author: Fotis Psomopoulos
Date: 08 Mar, 2017
Hi all,
Regarding action #1, I've just created an initial set of requirements based
on our current set of use-cases/interviews (see "Requirements" tab at the
Google Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16uJX12h1qCcWo1_LsYZ5NXfZXWCeD4ld...
Earxx58/edit#gid=781155277).
Any feedback and/or suggestions on those would be more than welcome.
Regards,
Fotis
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Subject: Re: RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Call tomorrow
Hi Fotis,
I added two use cases from the W3C SDW. so, action #2 complete.
cheers,
sjs
On 3/7/17 2:43 PM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos wrote:
Dear RDA Data Discovery IG members,
Please find attached the minutes of our call earlier today for the RDA Data
Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections (you
can find the same information on the task force wiki page as well:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017.
After the discussion we identified two actions until our next teleconference
(though ideally sometime next week), and aiming for the 9th RDA Plenary in
Barcelona;
Action #1: Create a first version of requirements in the use-cases
spreadsheet
XEarxx58/edit>
Action #2: Get extra use-cases from W3C SDW
Finally, our next teleconference will take place on Tuesday, March 21st
2017 (see local times and connection details below).
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
Next teleconference, Tuesday, March 21st 2017
When
* London (United Kingdom) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 12:00 noon GMTUTC
* Athens (Greece) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 2:00 pm EETUTC +2 hours
* New York (USA - New York) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 7:00 am ESTUTC
-5 hours
* Perth (Australia - Western Australia) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 8:00
pm AWSTUTC +8 hours
* Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 11:00 pm
AEDTUTC +11 hours
How
Connection details
Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device:
Please click this URL to start or join.
https://monash.zoom.us/j/188555533
Or, go to https://monash.zoom.us/join and
enter meeting ID: 188 555 533
Join from a dial-in phone:
Dial: +61 3 99059666 (+61 3 9905 ZOOM) or +61 2 8015 2088
Toll-free dial: +61 18 0079 2488 (US/Canada only)
Meeting ID: 188 555 533
International numbers available:
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Join from a Video capable room system(H.323/SIP):
Dial:
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or:
***@***.*** (H323) or
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Meeting ID: 188 555 533
--
Siri-Jodha Singh KHALSA, Ph.D., SMIEEE
National Snow and Ice Data Center
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO 80309-0449 Phone: 1-303-492-1445 GV: 1-303-736-9976
http://cires.colorado.edu/~khalsa
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9217-5550
Author: Fotis Psomopoulos
Date: 20 Mar, 2017
Dear all,
This is just a gentle reminder of our 6th call tomorrow, Tuesday March 22nd
for the RDA Data Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test
collections.
You can find the connection details as well as links to the corresponding
documents below.
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis
Document Links
Call Minutes:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017
Use Cases:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16uJX12h1qCcWo1_LsYZ5NXfZXWCeD4ld...
Earxx58/edit
Next teleconference, Tuesday, March 21st 2017
When
* London (United Kingdom) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 12:00 noon GMTUTC
* Athens (Greece) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 2:00 pm EETUTC +2 hours
* New York (USA - New York) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 7:00 am ESTUTC
-5 hours
* Perth (Australia - Western Australia) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 8:00
pm AWSTUTC +8 hours
* Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Tuesday, 21 March 2017 at 11:00 pm
AEDTUTC +11 hours
How
Connection details
Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device:
Please click this URL to start or join.
https://monash.zoom.us/j/188555533
Or, go to https://monash.zoom.us/join and
enter meeting ID: 188 555 533
Join from a dial-in phone:
Dial: +61 3 99059666 (+61 3 9905 ZOOM) or +61 2 8015 2088
Toll-free dial: +61 18 0079 2488 (US/Canada only)
Meeting ID: 188 555 533
International numbers available:
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Join from a Video capable room system(H.323/SIP):
Dial:
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or:
***@***.*** (H323) or
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or
162.255.36.11 or 162.255.37.11
Meeting ID: 188 555 533
Author: Fotis Psomopoulos
Date: 21 Mar, 2017
Dear RDA Data Discovery IG members,
Please find attached the minutes of our call earlier today for the RDA Data
Discovery Topic E: Use cases, prototyping tools and test collections (you
can find the same information on the task force wiki page as well:
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/data-discovery-paradigms-ig/wiki/notes...
-cases-teleconferences-dec-2016-april-2017.
Finally, the particular date/time of our next teleconference will be decided
at the upcoming Plenary Meeting in Barcelona (hope to see you all there!)
Regards,
Antica, Anita, Jens, Ming and Fotis