Stephane, All,
I would not say this is a different focus. Data Science or Big Data is
still a driving force in changing modern research and science (as well
as industry). Researchers need tools (and knowledge) to do their
research and they look for a possibility to get proper education and
training. And surely, they need support from data archives managers and
as currently also stated from data librarians.
Indeed first few BoFs (before establishing IG) contained majority of
presentations from Data Science domains. That is why we put efforts to
involve contribution from data managers/librarians and more generally
from data preservation domains. And we had presentation from APARSEN at
the last meeting.
But still we should continue covering all aspects of data handling and
management domains and professions.
In this context can I repeat a call for contribution for the next IG
meeting?
Yuri
29
Jan
2015
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Author: Joy Davidson
Date: 02 Feb, 2015
Hi everyone,
Just to echo Stephane's sentiments, I'd be keen to see this group focus on working towards bridging the data skills for all roles in the research lifecycle. The H2020 INFRASUPP calls clearly indicate that they want to increase the data capacity for a wide range of roles - managers, engineers, technicians - as well as researchers so I think it would be good for us to keep this broader focus as well.
Since our last meeting in September, a new initaitve has started that may be relevant to the work we're undertaking. The European Data Science Academy (EDSA) is a consortium being led by the Open University. The consortium have an initial curricula for data scientists so this may be one aspect to explore during the next meeting. In additional to the topics listed, the initiative also had a dashboard illustrating demand for data skills across Europe.
http://edsa-project.eu/
http://edsa-project.eu/dashboard/
All the best,
Joy
Author: Yuri Demchenko
Date: 02 Feb, 2015
Joy,
Thank you for this information.
Is anybody from The European Data Science Academy (EDSA) attending the
meeting? Can we get their presentation and vision? Are you attending?
Yuri
Author: Stéphane Goldstein
Date: 03 Feb, 2015
Dear all,
I quite agree with Yuri's point that data science is a major driving force, and of course the role and skills of data scientists is fundamentally important. But I remain very concerned that the presentation proposals for the IG session only talk about data science/scientists. The terms of reference of the IG are clear: the Group will "make the case for creating taxonomies of the skills required by different group of data management specialists/professionals and elaborating reference models” (my italics).
There was a clear understanding at the last plenary in Amsterdam that we need to have an approach that englobes a wider range of roles and professions around the use of research data. Moreover, at the second of our IG sessions, and after much discussion, we agreed to lay the basis for a possible working group focused on developing taxonomy with the aim of setting out skills, attributes and competencies, and perhaps match these to roles and professions.
We also agreed that the first step was to draft a short 1-2 page statement to set out what we might achieve and serve as a basis for further discussion; as far as I know, this hasn’t happened yet.
For these reasons, I strongly feel that the proposed presentation at San Diego should make explicit reference to the competence profiles of all professions associated with research data, not just data scientists; and to education and training resources for data librarianship, management, curation, etc., and not just data science. If possible, we should also seek to prepare the above statement in advance of the meeting, so that we have something concrete to talk about.
Yuri – I’m sorry to appear so insistent, but I’m worried that we’re losing momentum; we had the beginnings of a plan at the last plenary, and it seems to me that we should stick to that. I’ve seen a couple of comments in reaction to our earlier exchange of messages, but it would be good if other members of the IG provided their views too.
Best wishes,
Stéphane
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Stephane, All,
I would not say this is a different focus. Data Science or Big Data is still a driving force in changing modern research and science (as well as industry). Researchers need tools (and knowledge) to do their research and they look for a possibility to get proper education and training. And surely, they need support from data archives managers and as currently also stated from data librarians.
Indeed first few BoFs (before establishing IG) contained majority of presentations from Data Science domains. That is why we put efforts to involve contribution from data managers/librarians and more generally from data preservation domains. And we had presentation from APARSEN at the last meeting.
But still we should continue covering all aspects of data handling and management domains and professions.
In this context can I repeat a call for contribution for the next IG meeting?
Yuri