RE: [vre_ig] Looking for authoritative definitions for VRE, VLab, Science...

22 Feb 2018

Sandra, all –
I certainly agree the objective is to converge to common objectives (support of researchers/learners); I thought Leo was looking for some distinction of the current ‘state of the world’ since this could be the start of a roadmap to convergence – but maybe I am ‘overthinking’ Leo’s intention?
Best
Keith
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Dear Leo, dear Keith,
this is a discussion we haven't solved yet because I think there is a different understanding of VREs/SGs/VLs between the communities. My understanding is that they describe exactly the same systems and not that there are the differences. At least I hope that we get to this understanding instead of searching for distinguishing them from each other.
I hope that helps.
Thanks,
Sandra
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On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:27 AM, ***@***.*** <***@***.***> wrote:
Leo –
For VRE I rely on the JISC definition at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/guides/implementing-a-virtual-research-environmen... and specifically:
“Virtual Research Environments (VREs) start from a similar premise, providing an integrated suite of teaching and learning, and management and administration tools - whilst also including specialist analytical and research tools. As with all new technologies, much of the nature and direction of VREs is continuing to evolve.”
For SG I rely on ICSG: http://www.icsciencegateways.org/what-is-a-science-gateway/ specifically:
“A Science Gateway (or Virtual Research Environment/Virtual Laboratory) is a community-developed set of tools, applications, and data collections that are integrated through a tailored web-based environment. Often Science Gateways leverage larger scale facilities to increase access and enable collaboration. Gateways can be used to tackle common scientific goals as well as offering resources for educating students and informing non-experts.”
For VL it is more difficult. The original concept is defned in Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Laboratory but refers to a domain-specific environment, nonetheless it includes a wide range of offerings (including e.g. publications, equipment etc). The Australian VL concept is less broad n some dimensions and equally broad in others.
So for me a VRE is a superset of VL is a superset of SG
Does that help?
Best
Keith
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Subject: [vre_ig] Looking for authoritative definitions for VRE, VLab, Science Gateway, ...
Dear VRE-IG members,
we all know VRE, VLab, Science Gateway are terms often used as synonyms ... this was discussed in the group many times.
I'm wondering whether there is any document / report / paper worth suggesting for definitions on terms including VREs, VLabs, Science Gateways et simila.
Besides definition it will be great if you can provide me with documents aiming at highlighting the differences (if any) among these terms.
Thanks for your support.
Regards,
Leo
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  • Kheeran Dharmawardena's picture

    Author: Kheeran Dharmaw...

    Date: 22 Feb, 2018

    Hi all,
    I'm with Sandra on this. Even though the written down descriptions of what
    it is can lead to the conclusion that Keith described, I think the intent
    of the creators of VRE, SG & VL is the same (or very close). I think if
    we get a single definitions that could encompass all of these accurately
    and leave sufficient flexibility within it for innovation then that would
    be a good step.
    Cheers
    Kheeran
    On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:10 PM,
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